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re: Brother will be going to trade school this fall. What trade would you recommend to him?
Posted on 5/27/21 at 4:15 pm to SerakThePreparer
Posted on 5/27/21 at 4:15 pm to SerakThePreparer
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My question is this: Is there a trade right now you would recommend to a younger person or you would’ve loved to do when you were younger?
Electrical and Instrumentation.
Paying bounties for these people.
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 4:19 pm to SerakThePreparer
HVAC or Welding. He can also go through apprenticeship with the United Association and not come out of pocket for school.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 4:52 pm to Donkeypunch
Something to consider is how hard it is to start your own business if you are interested in that. Diesel mechanic and pipeline welder are great, but owning your own company is better. Owning a diesel repair shop/ company for example is not nearly as easy or financial feasible when young as starting an Hvac/ plumbing/ electrical company. Some guys just want to work for someone else and pull a salary or whatever their whole life, nothing at all wrong with that. But starting an elevator repair company that’s union is probably extremely difficult for example.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 6:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You don’t know much about troubleshooting electrical problems.
Im not talking about how you troubleshoot an electrical problem today
You were arguing with me, a master electrician and electrical contractor, about how 1 electrician will be able to do the work of 5 electricians in the future. Your ignorance of current electrical troubleshooting will only be amplified when trying to forecast electrical troubleshooting in the future. Stick to cooking books.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 7:08 pm to SerakThePreparer
I'd tell him to go electrical, then get on with a Bas (building automations company). You can make bank working for one of those guys troubleshooting issues.
75% of my warranty calls as a commercial GC is for BAS systems. My company would easily pay 120k/year right now for someone with 5 years experience who knew how to troubleshoot.
75% of my warranty calls as a commercial GC is for BAS systems. My company would easily pay 120k/year right now for someone with 5 years experience who knew how to troubleshoot.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:26 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Im just relaying the information of fortune 50 companies
I worked for a fortune 10 company that manufactured, and provided service for some of the most technically complex systems in the world, I remain involved with the equipment today as a consultant. What you say is true, almost every parameter is monitored remotely, data trending is analyzed , alarms are generated automatically, and sent to the appropriate personal. Though constantly evolving over the past two decades, one aspect of service has not changed, there is no substitute for a experienced technician on the physical site with tools, and test equipment. The 5 or 6 major vendors in this industry have continue to add personnel, and remote monitoring has actually added additional failure modes to the systems. Nothing can be monitored, troubleshot, or repaired remotely without network connectivity. The host computer, network cards , routers, fail, cables and fiber get damaged, and a person with a screwdriver needs to be on site.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:31 pm to SerakThePreparer
HVAC, you get some electrical and plumbing as well.
We need good low voltage/data technicians badly, but I'm sure we aren't the only trade suffering right now.
We need good low voltage/data technicians badly, but I'm sure we aren't the only trade suffering right now.
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:38 pm to CWilken21
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If any of my kids struggle in college I’m immediately enrolling them in school to be an Elevator Mechanic. The union is very strong and their guys are making between $45-50 an hour.
Well, it doesn't really work as easy as "enrolling" them in the trade school.
But yes, the elevator union is one of the strongest in the nation. And while that income range is about right, the south has the lowest scale in the nation and those numbers don't include the benefit package that includes health care, a pension, and an annuity.
But as Rogertheshrubber said, theres a LOT of traveling involved. You go where the work is, but you're compensated for it (hotel reimbursed, meals paid, and per diem). And if you get into the escalator side of it you can pretty much write your own ticket. Thats where the real big money is.
Source: Elevator union mechanic installing escalators
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:04 pm to SerakThePreparer
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Says he thinking about welding or electrical.
Out of those two, I’d say it depends on the lifestyle he wants. If he wants to generally stay it the same town and be home every night, I’d choose an electrician. If he doesn’t mind living on the road, doing pipeline wwork or something like that, he can make more money (and work longer hours).
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:14 pm to SerakThePreparer
Plumbers have the least overhead of the subs so higher profit margins.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:51 am to SerakThePreparer
Plumbing. There are virtually no plumbers in most cities. They name their price and they are as busy as they want to be.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:46 am to IAmNERD
That is exactly right.
They often work either 9/80 or a 4-10s schedule. Most of them get an associates degree in instrumentation from a place like rpcc.
Usually, it takes a degree and 2-5 years plant experience with a contractor like Zachary to get on as company.
Some only work on calibrating, repairing and replacing sensors, transmitters and valve actuators. Others are cross trained to also work on the electrical side, connecting/disconnect, repairing and replacing electrical pump motors or tank agitators etc.
They often work either 9/80 or a 4-10s schedule. Most of them get an associates degree in instrumentation from a place like rpcc.
Usually, it takes a degree and 2-5 years plant experience with a contractor like Zachary to get on as company.
Some only work on calibrating, repairing and replacing sensors, transmitters and valve actuators. Others are cross trained to also work on the electrical side, connecting/disconnect, repairing and replacing electrical pump motors or tank agitators etc.
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:51 am to SerakThePreparer
Prob electrician. Whatever allows you to work for yourself sooner rather than later.
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