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re: It's kind of ridiculous that the grizzlies are in the play in game and we aren't
Posted on 5/22/21 at 1:40 pm to duyp
Posted on 5/22/21 at 1:40 pm to duyp
isnt Randle hosting a playoff game ?
what changed?
at the time pels had him td posters said he was asking too much. still think so?
as for brooks i agree he takes low percentage shots.
but hes going to be either first or second team all defense.
i was comparing to Zo.
Zo has more ceiling.
Brooks is better today.
what changed?
at the time pels had him td posters said he was asking too much. still think so?
as for brooks i agree he takes low percentage shots.
but hes going to be either first or second team all defense.
i was comparing to Zo.
Zo has more ceiling.
Brooks is better today.
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 3:00 pm to CelticDog
I’m saying with Pelican’s Randle and Brooks they either win you games or lose you games. Barely anything ever in between.
Did he improve with the Knicks and fit well with them? Yes. Because guys can improve.
I give you that he is a great defender. Not sure a first or second team defender though. But if you want him on this team, this guy is going to take DD shots, which you do not want.
Did he improve with the Knicks and fit well with them? Yes. Because guys can improve.
I give you that he is a great defender. Not sure a first or second team defender though. But if you want him on this team, this guy is going to take DD shots, which you do not want.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 3:25 pm to duyp
quote:he plays hard and maybe plays solid defense but offensively he is incredibly streaky. Don’t think he’s good offensively
There’s no way you watch Memphis games and say Brooks is good.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:30 pm to TigerinATL
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Not that the Pels had a ton of assets after drafting AD, but imagine how different things would have turned out if they had traded everything not nailed down for Lillard. The Pels need to identify who that is for Zion and go after him hard.
I said this exact thing in the AD trade threads and got downvoted. I woukd have called the Grizz before the draft and asked if what they preferred out of whatever the Celtics or Lakers were offering to trade for #2 to draft Ja and pair him with Zion to start off the new beginning.
We seeing this year exactly why I didnt like the Lakers package. Having to possibly pay Ball and Hart on top of the max for Ingram was gonna be bad business. I called this two years ago and here we are. Some of the Lakers pics better come out great.
Having 2 young superstars on rookie contracts would have been glorious and so easy to build around.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:40 pm to Townedrunkard
From what was stated around the time of the draft that year, Griff tried to get that 2nd pick from Memphis, but they wouldn't budge.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:50 pm to duyp
Brooks is borderline Elite on defense. Yeah he’s a super streaky borderline retard on offense at times, but he’s so much better than Zo on defense, Brooks is the better player today and probably will be for the foreseeable future unless Zo learns how to run a pick and roll, make a layup, or fight through a screen without injuring himself for 3 weeks.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:59 pm to duyp
For what he cost and his production, he's good value for them. I'd love to have a young guard putting up 17+ PPG for 11 million a year. He's a role player on a good contract.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:08 pm to Soggymoss
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From what was stated around the time of the draft that year, Griff tried to get that 2nd pick from Memphis, but they wouldn't budge.
Yeah, you’re almost going to have to “find” that guy, or have him be in a bad situation. Once a team has that player they won’t let them go. For example, I doubt you could come up with a trade Minnesota would take for Anthony Edwards unless Zion was part of it.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:24 pm to Soggymoss
Yeah, I’ve heard that too and have always wondered what we offered, if Memphis was even perceptive in the least, etc.
It might have taken the entire package we got for AD for Memphis to even consider, but I doubt Ingram and probably at least a couple of those picks/swaps were on the table.
My offer would have probably been 4, Lonzo, and every future pick we got from the Lakers, or maybe we could have kept some of those and mixed in some of our future picks. I preferably would have wanted to keep Ingram, Hart and the swap options, but of course I wouldn’t have necessarily nixed a deal over Hart or swaps.
Core of Zion, BI, Ja would be incredibly appealing even though it would be dogshit defensively. We wouldn’t even worry about having to find the 3rd guy. We’d just be focused on bringing in the right role players in.
It might have taken the entire package we got for AD for Memphis to even consider, but I doubt Ingram and probably at least a couple of those picks/swaps were on the table.
My offer would have probably been 4, Lonzo, and every future pick we got from the Lakers, or maybe we could have kept some of those and mixed in some of our future picks. I preferably would have wanted to keep Ingram, Hart and the swap options, but of course I wouldn’t have necessarily nixed a deal over Hart or swaps.
Core of Zion, BI, Ja would be incredibly appealing even though it would be dogshit defensively. We wouldn’t even worry about having to find the 3rd guy. We’d just be focused on bringing in the right role players in.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:56 pm to duyp
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But if you want him on this team, this guy is going to take DD shots, which you do not want
i have this fantasy coach can get him to comprehend good shot bad shot.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:07 pm to Macintosh504
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They draft a lot of high floor low ceiling guys and we draft high ceiling guys. It’s not the difficult to see. They will remain mediocre.
jaren jr was pick 4
morant was pick 2.
they have both got high ceilings.
morant may have just learned 3 pt shot.
looked like it vs gsw.
does not have real jumper form.
they have solid 2nd round guys. impressive gm work really.
the only low ceiling first round pick was clarke and he was mid round after lottery.
first team all rookie.
seemed to have expanded his range before injury.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:15 pm to CelticDog
quote:you forgot Desmond Bane
the only low ceiling first round pick was clarke and he was mid round after lottery.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:19 pm to Macintosh504
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You knew what you were getting from Bane, Tillman, Brooks (tho he’s improved), Clarke, etc. all guys who have played college for 3+ years
i prefer that.
i think its a gm style.
know what you are getting.
and not hope athlete is willing and able to learn.
it takes real discipline and a good coach.
morant is interesting case.
could not shoot.
but gifted passer and gifted athlete.
if he learned 3 pt shot the pick payed off.
he still doesnt have a jumper. same as zion.
they get by on physical gifts.
if either one can do ordinary jumpers some day that one is near impossible to cover.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:58 pm to CelticDog
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if either one can do ordinary jumpers some day that one is near impossible to cover.
I agree. Crazy what this generation has. The thing I’m scared about Morant is how high he gets. Will he go the path of Westbrook or Rose. I hope we can get Davion Mitchell. The thing about Morant and Mitchell is that you can see the confidence and aggressiveness in them.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:20 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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It might have taken the entire package we got for AD for Memphis to even consider, but I doubt Ingram and probably at least a couple of those picks/swaps were on the table. My offer would have probably been 4, Lonzo, and every future pick we got from the Lakers, or maybe we could have kept some of those and mixed in some of our future picks. I preferably would have wanted to keep Ingram, Hart and the swap options, but of course I wouldn’t have necessarily nixed a deal over Hart or swaps.
I remember hearing a little smoke about it. But like you said highly unlikely BI woukd have been discussed so I’m sure Memphis just said no thanks.
I would have tried the same to float Ball and all the other Lakers assets. But if they would have taken just BI and say the Lakers 21/22 pick. I woulda had to think long and hard on that. Take Hunter at #4 and that would have been a nice rookie trio to start from scratch with.
Not to mention I’m sure we would have had more losses last year and conceivably been a lil higher in the draft. Halliburton would have been a nice replacement after trading Jrue.
Ja and Halliburton backcourt, Hunter and Zion at forward and any slap dick at center.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:27 pm to Townedrunkard
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I would have tried the same to float Ball and all the other Lakers assets. But if they would have taken just BI and say the Lakers 21/22 pick. I woulda had to think long and hard on that. Take Hunter at #4 and that would have been a nice rookie trio to start from scratch with
Curious what we needed to send for rj Barrett.
Because he would cover the deficiencies that Ingram has defensively, another solid Shooter and give us length that would be hard to keep up.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:41 pm to htran90
NAW and Hayes (can’t believe I’m saying that) are NBA players and they are growing nicely. I feel like it’s too soon to tell. When they hit their prime, then we can debate on it.
Hayes is probably one of the most athletic centers/players out there. He just need basketball IQ/experience which he is getting from Adams. Glad he got his head on right.
Hayes is probably one of the most athletic centers/players out there. He just need basketball IQ/experience which he is getting from Adams. Glad he got his head on right.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:35 am to GeauxTigersGo
Kinda, sorta related: I happen to be in Memphis right now for some medical stuff tomorrow. It is a nice city and I'm thinking it does not have as many of the "small market" problems as New Orleans.
For one thing (at least according to Wikipedia) it is a bit bigger - Memphis is 28th largest, while N.O. is 51st. For another, the downtown area may be even more compact and walkable than New Orleans. You have the minor league baseball park, the whole Beale street area, and the basketball area all in a fairly small area. It seems to be cleaner as well. It also has businesses like FedEx and AutZone.
For one thing (at least according to Wikipedia) it is a bit bigger - Memphis is 28th largest, while N.O. is 51st. For another, the downtown area may be even more compact and walkable than New Orleans. You have the minor league baseball park, the whole Beale street area, and the basketball area all in a fairly small area. It seems to be cleaner as well. It also has businesses like FedEx and AutZone.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:47 pm to Townedrunkard
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Ja and Halliburton backcourt, Hunter and Zion at forward
championship
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:55 pm to Macintosh504
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forgot Desmond Bane
true.
last man in round one.
do we know he has a low ceiling? hes playing with confidence.
in the rotation vs gsw.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 6:01 pm
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