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Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:27 pm to RobbBobb
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A third of a tank is about 7 gallons or $70. Thats about 2 days of work in La at min. wage, after taxes etc.
Maybe the single mom shouldn’t be driving a fricking f250 with the extended range tank lmao.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:30 pm to RobbBobb
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I want price controls to be a seldom used arrow in the arsenal. Because it keeps (say a Mitt Romney hedge fund type) from forcing a shortage
There’s a severe housing shortage right now. Should the government set prices on those too, comrade?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:32 pm to RobbBobb
What triggers it happening?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:33 pm to RobbBobb
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I want price controls to be a seldom used arrow in the arsenal. Because it keeps (say a Mitt Romney hedge fund type) from forcing a shortage, as a reason jack prices up, in order to make bank. Off a false narrative that they created as a way to make bank
Cool, so we'll give the government the ability to set prices for goods when they "deem it necessary". I can't see that being an utter fricking disaster that they abuse like crazy.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:36 pm to jimbeam
We should set policy to protect hypothetical people from hypothetical scenarios instead of maximizing who it helps and allocating resources most efficiently emergency situations. Genius stuff.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:41 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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There’s a severe housing shortage right now. Should the government set prices on those too, comrade?
lulz, You just skipped right over the words 'seldom used'.
If you crypto enthusiasts woke up to a monthly energy bill of $3500, you'd scream and cry to the govt to intervene. Because mining would have to stop immediately. Indefinitely
Just like Texans did when they got their non controlled bills, following the ice storm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:43 pm to RobbBobb
quote:You must have missed where we asked you how you define “seldom” and under what criteria the government m would set prices. Honest oversight on your part I’m sure.
You just skipped right over the words 'seldom used
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:44 pm to RobbBobb
I don’t think you understand how capitalism works and how supply and demand works to avoid shortages
In your system the first few idiot hoarders would get all the gas and everyone else would be SOL. By allowing prices to rise, hoarders will think twice which allows for more people to get gas
In your system the first few idiot hoarders would get all the gas and everyone else would be SOL. By allowing prices to rise, hoarders will think twice which allows for more people to get gas
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:45 pm to wutangfinancial
Is price the only method to control hoarding? Gouging hurts the consumer and rewards the supplier, effectively capitalizing on the effects of an attack/disaster.
Seems rationing it based on CC info or address or VIN or some other traceable means would be much more efficient.
Very few people need more than 10 gallons of gas a day. Seems like you just limit how much fuel somebody can consume during the shortages. Similar to the way ammo or TP or hand sanitizer or EVERY OTHER product is controlled during a shortage. In this scenario, simply extending the timeline will allow the situation to improve.
Seems rationing it based on CC info or address or VIN or some other traceable means would be much more efficient.
Very few people need more than 10 gallons of gas a day. Seems like you just limit how much fuel somebody can consume during the shortages. Similar to the way ammo or TP or hand sanitizer or EVERY OTHER product is controlled during a shortage. In this scenario, simply extending the timeline will allow the situation to improve.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:46 pm to RobbBobb
quote:Day Care is still going to charge you
Its far, far better to sit at home with no gas, and not pay for day care
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:46 pm to LSUtigerME
They tried that with toilet paper. People just went back into the store after checking out and bought more.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:47 pm to jimbeam
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What triggers it happening?
You mean like a highly questionable pandemic? Where you had govt officials telling people not to use cheap effective medicines, but wait for the ridiculously expensive new meds that they have a financial interest in?
And you cannot fathom the damage that could be done in an instance lie that, if price gouging were endorsed. C'mon. We just lived that scenario for a year
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:52 pm to LSUtigerME
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Is price the only method to control hoarding? Gouging hurts the consumer and rewards the supplier, effectively capitalizing on the effects of an attack/disaster.
As they should when there's high demand for their inventory.
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Seems rationing it based on CC info or address or VIN or some other traceable means would be much more efficient.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:52 pm to Ross
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By allowing prices to rise, hoarders will think twice which allows for more people to get gas
If there was any basis of truth in this statement, there would not be price gouging rules in place
We have very recent experience where the utility companies acted as the hoarders by raising rates, and people were SOL during the ice storm. Or the gas stations became the hoarder following a hurricane, and travelers were SOL if they couldnt pay up. And now sawmills are the hoarders, and home builders are SOL until they decide to turn the mills back on
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:01 pm to Yak
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Day Care is still going to charge you
Because their minimum wage employees are going to be able to get to work on $10 a gallon gas, amirite?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:03 pm to Ross
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don’t think you understand how capitalism works and how supply and demand works to avoid shortages
That demand/supply metric works well for non-essential items. I would argue that gasoline is, for most people, an essential item.
Spiking the price to $8/gal will indeed cause some to not buy as much, but it will cause others to not buy any, even if they need it. That's not good for capitalism, either.
I think in situations like this, temporary purchasing restrictions are the answer. Something like, you are limited to 10 gal per day, every other day, based upon the first character of your license plate. That's not perfect as I guess someone could visit multiple stations, but at least it would move the lines and give a chance for everyone to get something.
The real answer, though, is we need more redundancy in this country. That costs money, of course.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:04 pm to RobbBobb
buddy those rising prices prevent shortages
There is historical evidence out the arse and to the moon and back that price controls lead to shortages and food deserts
There is historical evidence out the arse and to the moon and back that price controls lead to shortages and food deserts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:04 pm to RobbBobb
Government control of the consumer economy. Sounds like a great idea.
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