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re: Calls for CNN to fire Rick Santorum over Native American comments
Posted on 4/26/21 at 3:31 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
Posted on 4/26/21 at 3:31 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
CRTinthesaddle thinks Santorum was talking about people in the Carribbrean.
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 3:34 pm to roadGator
quote:I have some blankets I was gonna send...
CRTinthesaddle thinks Santorum was talking about people in the Carribbrean.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:06 pm to blackinthesaddle
quote:
The words in question are from a speech which is the spoken word. At least have your "facts" right if you're going to disparage.
The OP contains a transcript of the statement. You should google the word "transcript".
But please, continue to enlighten us on the Native American's invention of BBQ and boating.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:07 pm to shinerfan
quote:And stacking dirt and digging holes in walls.
But please, continue to enlighten us on the Native American's invention of BBQ and boating.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
there isn't much Native American culture in American culture"
In terms of current culture, he's not wrong.
However, colonial period and early nation? There's some there.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:16 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
I believe the wheel was actually invented/discovered by South American Indians
Abso-fricking-lutely not.
It was invented by the Greeks nearly 6000 years ago.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:18 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
Indians didn't use the wheel for meaningful advancement (such as transport).
So no wagons, no carts, etc.
They didn't have the wheel. They also had no wagons or carts to speak of because they had nothing to pull them.
Until Europeans arrived,there were no pack animals in North America, and only llamas/alpacas in South America.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:36 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Well...sort of. There are plenty of items suggesting that they had the concept of a wheel, but there is no evidence that shows that they incorporated it into a complex machine.
They didn't have the wheel. They also had no wagons or carts to speak of because they had nothing to pull them.
And wagons and carts don't always have to be drawn by animals. I had a wagon as a kid. The shopping carts at the grocery store has wheels.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:42 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
I had a wagon as a kid. The shopping carts at the grocery store has wheels.
Perhaps if they had smooth, hard surfaces and wheels with ball-bearings, they could have invented toy wagons for their children and shopping carts for their wives.
But they didn't have those (or the wheel). And the rudimentary wheel shaped items that have been found can't be proven to have actually been used as a wheel.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:43 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:Google says yes, and I can say that this is, by leaps and bounds, the most applicable, significant contribution that Indians have made to America.
Was cornbread Indian?
That's equally sad and awesome.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:48 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Pretty sure my wagon was a solid rod through a wheel. It pulled fine through the yard, grass, and whatnot.
Perhaps if they had smooth, hard surfaces and wheels with ball-bearings, they could have invented toy wagons for their children and shopping carts for their wives.
quote:There's a Smithsonian article regarding toys that have been found that had or have a wheel. They were many thousands of years old.
But they didn't have those (or the wheel). And the rudimentary wheel shaped items that have been found can't be proven to have actually been used as a wheel.
Similar to cornbread, that's both awesome and sad. Awesome because that's the development of simple machine. Sad because they didn't have the brain power to scale it up into something that would have made their lives easier (like all machines do).
Here's the Smithsonian article. In short, wheeled toys were found in pre-Columbian strata.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:59 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
Thank Tecumseh Sherman for that. Killing millions and millions of buffalo to starve them out pretty much eliminated what might have been extended influence out west.
I always find it ironic that William Tecumseh Shermans dad named him after a great indian chief....and he went on to demolish the tribes.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:59 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
Similar to cornbread, that's both awesome and sad. Awesome because that's the development of simple machine. Sad because they didn't have the brain power to scale it up into something that would have made their lives easier (like all machines do).
It was years ago, but the BBC did a special on a small African tribe who's claim to fame was inventing the stool.
They invented their stool, in the 18th century.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 5:02 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
It's a bit misleading when you throw South American natives in with North American.
South America was much more advanced, but still 1000 years or more behind Europe.
And corn grew naturally, so they don't really get credit for "inventing" it. It also was a very basic form of corn that was nothing like the corn today.
South America was much more advanced, but still 1000 years or more behind Europe.
And corn grew naturally, so they don't really get credit for "inventing" it. It also was a very basic form of corn that was nothing like the corn today.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 5:02 pm to Hangover Haven
quote:
Ironic part about that commercial was Iron Eyes Cody was Italian....
And he was from Kaplan, Louisiana.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 5:06 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:huh?
after marijuana made peyote obsolete
Posted on 4/26/21 at 5:07 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Well the other dingdong (who apparently left) threw in Guatemala, so this was more of me throwing him a bone.
It's a bit misleading when you throw South American natives in with North American.
South America was much more advanced, but still 1000 years or more behind Europe.
quote:And I didn't say they invented corn. I don't think you can invent a plant any more than you can invent gravity or electricity.
And corn grew naturally, so they don't really get credit for "inventing" it. It also was a very basic form of corn that was nothing like the corn today.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 5:11 pm to Lima Whiskey
If Sacagawea were not with Lewis and Clark the west might have been Spanish/British/Russian.
Course at this point it might have been a blessing.
Course at this point it might have been a blessing.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 5:19 pm to trinidadtiger
History prefers winners, like our great forefathers, not losers like whomever was on our land before we claimed it
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