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Business Board: Would Requiring The Vaccine Be a Good Way to Downsize a Company?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:00 pm
Depending on the size of the organization, if an organization wanted to avoid Federal laws regarding downsizing, the potential of paying out severance, or looking like the company wasn't doing well...would requiring the vaccine be a good way to "lose" people?
I wonder if there's any early data out there on companies that are requiring it, and what the rate is of employees that have complied.
I wonder if there's any early data out there on companies that are requiring it, and what the rate is of employees that have complied.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:05 pm to RummelTiger
Not unless you want all your intelligent, self-driven, autonomous people to leave the company.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:14 pm to loopback
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Not unless you want all your intelligent, self-driven, autonomous people to leave the company.
Works well for social media companies.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:15 pm to loopback
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Not unless you want all your intelligent, self-driven, autonomous people to leave the company.
The implication here is that anyone getting the vaccine can't have those qualities?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:16 pm to RummelTiger
No as the vast majority of people either have gotten it or will get it, especially if their paycheck is dependent on it.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:17 pm to RummelTiger
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if an organization wanted to avoid Federal laws regarding downsizing, the potential of paying out severance, or looking like the company wasn't doing well...would requiring the vaccine be a good way to "lose" people?

Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:18 pm to RummelTiger
No. Typically, when downsizing you want to pick & chose which employees to let go. It may not be on an individual level, it could be a department and/or manager level decision. If you chose something like vaccines to make that decision, then the employee essentially gets to choose if they are going to be downsized.
With that said, if a company wants to do that now, they can just blame COVID and start making those cuts now. No one would give it a second thought, outside of obvious discrimination (all terminations are older people, or a certain race). If questioned, they could say it's because of the economy, loss revenue, based on projections, the need to be able to have employees working 6' apart...
With that said, if a company wants to do that now, they can just blame COVID and start making those cuts now. No one would give it a second thought, outside of obvious discrimination (all terminations are older people, or a certain race). If questioned, they could say it's because of the economy, loss revenue, based on projections, the need to be able to have employees working 6' apart...
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:27 pm to RummelTiger
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Business Board: Would Requiring The Vaccine Be a Good Way to Downsize a Company?
You'll end up with exactly the wrong employees.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:27 pm to LNCHBOX
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The implication here is that anyone getting the vaccine can't have those qualities?
Sounds like that's YOUR implication.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:28 pm to loopback
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Sounds like that's YOUR implication.
Walk me through how you got there.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:28 pm to moneyg
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You'll end up with exactly the wrong employees.
Yeah...but, would you really?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:28 pm to RummelTiger
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Business Board: Would Requiring The Vaccine Be a Good Way to Downsize a Company?
Even better. Layoff the bottom producers.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:29 pm to LNCHBOX
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The implication here is that anyone getting the vaccine can't have those qualities?
Yes
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:29 pm to RummelTiger
Tell Chicken TD doesn’t need to lose more hamsters
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:29 pm to Nguyener
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The implication here is that anyone getting the vaccine can't have those qualities?
Yes
That's pretty dumb. but then again most of the antivax posts are.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:31 pm to LNCHBOX
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Walk me through how you got there
Anyone with a brain knows that getting the vaccine and having those qualities are not mutually exclusive. That's a conclusion you jumped to using a broad paintbrush
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:36 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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if a company wants to do that now, they can just blame COVID and start making those cuts now. No one would give it a second thought, outside of obvious discrimination (all terminations are older people, or a certain race). If questioned, they could say it's because of the economy, loss revenue, based on projections, the need to be able to have employees working 6' apart...
Well, that’s why I said depending on size. WARN Act and all...
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:37 pm to loopback
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Anyone with a brain knows that getting the vaccine and having those qualities are not mutually exclusive. That's a conclusion you jumped to using a broad paintbrush
But the guy I responded to said requiring the vaccine would make you lose all your employees like that. How is that my implication and not his?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:46 pm to Twenty 49
Would the business be liable for any potential side effects from the vaccine? Or is that a stat by state issue?
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