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re: Chauvin defense plays video "I ate too many drugs"

Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2324 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Clearly Chauvin should have let the perp go because he was in a self-induced medical crisis and Chauvin should have magically determined that Floyd ingested a lethal amount of drugs, despite his saying that "I ain't high on nothing".


Shouldn't have let him go, but once his hands were cuffed behind his back Chauvin should have monitored his condition and been prepared to shift him to another position.

Prosecution introduced two videos of Chauvin doing exactly that for two other detainees in the past.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

The paramedic on the scene testified. She was yelling at Chauvin to stop and let her check Floyd out, and Chauvin told her to be quiet. She tried to tell him how to turn Floyd over and start CPR, and he ignored her.

That was her testimony.


Not good if true.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Not good if true.
yep and hard to want him to get off. not murder or manslaughter though, maybe some form of negligence. I hope he's not guilty just for the entertainment though. I concede that's very immature.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32469 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:22 pm to
That's a risky move. If they want to prove he was an OD, then why the continuous restraint, whether they called paramedics or not? I don't know about that one. I could see this playing badly in the heads of the jurors.
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11289 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

The riots after the trial will probably make last year look like the minor leagues.


Let them riot. Eventually, there will be a Napoleon-type leader who will end this modern reign of terror.

Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6492 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

The paramedic on the scene testified. She was yelling at Chauvin to stop and let her check Floyd out, and Chauvin told her to be quiet. She tried to tell him how to turn Floyd over and start CPR, and he ignored her.

That was her testimony


She was not a paramedic. She was not on the clock. She was not working. She was a bystander with a phone and was a firefighter who had EMS training. She was yelling at the cops to check for a pulse. But no, she was not on the clock or in uniform.

She even got checked by the judge for arguing. click the link LINK
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21857 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

The paramedic on the scene testified. She was yelling at Chauvin to stop and let her check Floyd out, and Chauvin told her to be quiet. She tried to tell him how to turn Floyd over and start CPR, and he ignored her.

That was her testimony.


Don't need her testimony if the body cams were rolling (and they were).
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12279 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:31 pm to
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Not good if true.


He forgot to add that she was not in uniform nor had any identification proving she was a EMT.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7592 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:33 pm to
If a physically imposing perpetrator, who was already acting erratically , said "I ate too many drugs" why would any police officer be inclined to reduce any amount of force he deemed necessary to keep the perpetrator from hurting himself, or others, until paramedics arrived to sedate said perp?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21857 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

She was not a paramedic. She was not on the clock. She was not working. She was a bystander with a phone and was a firefighter who had EMS training. She was yelling at the cops to check for a pulse. But no, she was not on the clock or in uniform.


That changes a lot.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6492 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

That's a risky move. If they want to prove he was an OD, then why the continuous restraint, whether they called paramedics or not? I don't know about that one. I could see this playing badly in the heads of the jurors.


There was no way of knowing he was overdosing. The only thing the defense can do is prove that he didn't die under the restraint of Chauvin and that he could have died by an overdose. Remember, hes innocent until proven guilty. So far there is no proof without a reasonable doubt that GF died due to being restrained with pressure to the neck.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56874 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

She was not a paramedic. She was not on the clock. She was not working. She was a bystander with a phone and was a firefighter who had EMS training. She was yelling at the cops to check for a pulse. But no, she was not on the clock or in uniform.


Well, that's a very different thing. I know I shouldn't be , but I'm continuously surprised when people post objectively false information in an attempt to convince people to agree with their desired conclusion.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6492 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

She was not a paramedic. She was not on the clock. She was not working. She was a bystander with a phone and was a firefighter who had EMS training. She was yelling at the cops to check for a pulse. But no, she was not on the clock or in uniform.


Well, that's a very different thing. I know I shouldn't be , but I'm continuously surprised when people post objectively false information in an attempt to convince people to agree with their desired conclusion.


Misinformation is the reason we are where we are in 2021.



Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Shouldn't have let him go, but once his hands were cuffed behind his back Chauvin should have monitored his condition and been prepared to shift him to another position.

Prosecution introduced two videos of Chauvin doing exactly that for two other detainees in the past.


Monday Morning Quarterbacking Bull Shite.

Chauvin had no reasonable expectation of recognizing that Floyd had heart problems and had overdosed, which he did.

Police officers aren't doctors. If you want to prosecute Chauvin for not being a doctor, then you've got a huge mountain ahead of you.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

The paramedic on the scene testified. She was yelling at Chauvin to stop and let her check Floyd out, and Chauvin told her to be quiet. She tried to tell him how to turn Floyd over and start CPR, and he ignored her.

That was her testimony.



Was this the off duty para that could have also been a shopper from Sachs?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32469 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Remember, hes innocent until proven guilty.
That hasn't been the case in a long time when it comes to police and the POC.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21857 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Prosecution introduced two videos of Chauvin doing exactly that for two other detainees in the past.


Was Chauvin confronted with an agitated crowd threatening him when he monitored the subject's condition?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30422 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Police officers aren't doctors.

However most of them have come into contact with OD incidents. In fact, many if not most of them are trained in identifying OD situations, thus the narcan shots they carry.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:40 pm
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6492 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

If a physically imposing perpetrator, who was already acting erratically , said "I ate too many drugs" why would any police officer be inclined to reduce any amount of force he deemed necessary to keep the perpetrator from hurting himself, or others, until paramedics arrived to sedate said perp?



He wasn't necessarily coming off as physically imposing initially. He was somewhat calm (although visibly high) before they attempted to put him in the police car. Once his excited delerium took in he started panicking about being put in the car then began to have a mental episode that lead into him (although not causing) to overdose. He was resisting arrest on the ground and Chauvin was doing as he was trained while EMS was on the way. Once they arrived, he was relived of restraining him.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:42 pm to
It’s a bad look, but did he kill GF?

Not seeing that.
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