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How did Edwin Edwards beat Dave Treen so bad in the 1983 governors race?
Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:58 am
Edwards got 63% of the vote. What did Dave Treen do wrong?
Posted on 3/9/21 at 11:59 am to GeneralDodo
Didn't sell enough hospital and nursing home licenses??
Posted on 3/9/21 at 12:03 pm to GeneralDodo
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Lest you think for a moment that the Louisiana governor’s race is an ordinary political event, let’s forget the fanfare and get right to the heart of the matter: pardons. Gubernatorial pardons. 1,181 of them. That’s how many Edwin Edwards granted in his last four-and-a-half years as this state’s last Democratic governor. It averages out to just about one every other day, as the Republican incumbent, Dave Treen, gleefully points out. Now if that seems a bit peculiar, stay tuned for Edwards’s strangely indisputable explanation. “Shall we forget,” he cries in his Cajun-French accent, “that the great Man God Himself who walked amongst us died on the cross to pardon people who realized they had made a mistake but wanted a second chance? And anyway,” he laughs as the crowd roars. “I thought Republicans knew all about pardons.” Welcome to Louisiana.
This is a race between an intensely charismatic ex-governor who (many argue) isn’t particularly honest, and an aggressively honest incumbent who (most agree) isn’t particularly interesting. In the state that thrives on Tabasco and Mardi Gras, dullness is the only unforgivable sin. Therefore Dave Treen is in big trouble.
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These are tough times in Louisiana. Unemployment is at a record 12.5 percent, almost double since Edwards left office in 1979. Treen supporters blame the recession for devastating Louisiana’s crucial oil and gas industries, but voters remember the good ol’ days and associate the flamboyant Edwards with the boom that was. And if there are any who think the good times may be gone for good, Edwards is everywhere reassuring them in a style unlike that of any politician in America. “You that are elderly and have seen your funds cut, you that are crippled, blind, poor, or disabled,” he exhorts, “you that have suffered these long three-and-a-half years, take heart. Take heart, for on October 22 the great healer shall returneth. And he shall make ye well!”
It’s lines like these that the handsome Edwards delivers as his huge motorcade, like some vision from a forgotten political past, tours the state. Surrounded by a score of pistol-toting, walkie-talkie-waving bodyguards. Edwards is greeted with an enthusiasm bordering on hysteria, the crowds pouring in for autographs, hungry for a fleeting touch. And when in South Louisiana he breaks out his native Cajun-French, it’s like Beatlemania.
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In an infinitely more colorful version of the lines hurled at Reagan by the Democratic Presidential hopefuls, Edwards blasts Treen for his 33 percent tax cut, which he claims has resulted in a reduction of human services across the board, from state schools to the Edwards-created Right To Bite program, which helps senior citizens buy dentures. “Can you imagine doing that?” Edwards asks the rapt crowds in small towns with names like Bunkie and Ville Platte. “Let’s face it, when you get to 65 there ain’t much fun left except eating. Treen’s not content to take little bites out of us, he’s trying to gum us to death!”
“Edwards Giveth… Treen Taketh Away!” heads the Edwards brochure. The Republican understandably asks where Edwards expects to get the money to do all this giving, and though the ex-governor advocates the repeal of Treen’s tax cut, it’s doubtful that this alone would pay for the sorts of programs the Democrat is promoting. But to the dismay of the Treen campaign, no one much seems to care.
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Edwards’s pitch is aimed at the low-income whites and blacks who comprise his hard-core base. In an interesting experiment whose outcome may have repercussions for the 1984 Republican national effort, Treen is waging a fierce battle to lure black support. His appeal is based on his efforts to involve blacks in leadership roles in his administration, rather than the quantity of funds he has allocated to social programs. “I’ve done more to place blacks in decision-making positions than any other governor in our state’s history,” Treen boasts, and it seems to be true. Three of his cabinet secretaries are black, and in three-and-a-half years he’s more than doubled the number of blacks appointed to boards, commissions, and executive posts.
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Louisiana LOVES populism. That's how Edwards beat Treen.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/9/21 at 12:06 pm to GeneralDodo
A friend of mine from BR who covered the whole EWE time explained it as well as anything I've heard:
'The La. Legislature is a big collection of morons. They are clueless. Being the La. Gov. is like herding cats. Edwards is the best I've seen at showing them shiny things so they will behave.'
'The La. Legislature is a big collection of morons. They are clueless. Being the La. Gov. is like herding cats. Edwards is the best I've seen at showing them shiny things so they will behave.'
Posted on 3/9/21 at 12:14 pm to TDsngumbo
One of EWE’s campaign ploys was to brand Treen as “boring” while he presented himself as the colorful, entertaining alternative for the still stupid voting population.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 3/9/21 at 12:23 pm to GeneralDodo
quote:Because Louisianians love them some big gubment and populism. I'm sure EWE was also willing to be a good bit more racist than Treen, who I always considered a gentleman.
How did Edwin Edwards beat Dave Treen so bad in the 1983 governors race?
Posted on 3/9/21 at 2:50 pm to TDsngumbo
I remember after Edwards beat Treen in 1972, he had a big Cajun-themed blow-out on the LSU campus (in a field near what is now The Box).
This sort of extravaganza appealed to Louisiana voters of that era, and Edwards was RELECTED in 1975 and served a second term before Treen's win in '79.
This sort of extravaganza appealed to Louisiana voters of that era, and Edwards was RELECTED in 1975 and served a second term before Treen's win in '79.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 3/9/21 at 2:52 pm to tarzana
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I remember after Edwards beat Treen in 1972,
You mean Bennett Johnston.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:36 pm to GeneralDodo
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How did Edwin Edwards beat Dave Treen so bad in the 1983 governors race?
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Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:54 pm to GeneralDodo
He passed out bumper stickers that read Vote For the Crook. Another slogan was Lache Pas.
Voters loved it.
Voters loved it.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:55 pm to glassman
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You mean Bennett Johnston.
Closed primaries in 1972.
EWE beat Johnston in the Democratic primary and then beat Treen in the general election to become governor.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 3:59 pm to glassman
Bennett Johnston in the 1971 Democratic primary, and Dave Treen in the general election in early 1972.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 4:31 pm to GeneralDodo
Because, according to Edwards, Treen was so slow witted and deliberate that it took him an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 5:02 pm to GeneralDodo
Dominion voting machines.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 5:03 pm to araminta
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He passed out bumper stickers that read Vote For the Crook.
Edwards' people didn't actually start touting him as that until Duke. They didn't do that with Treen.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 5:04 pm to BigJim
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Dominion
Its paper precursor at least.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 5:46 pm to GeneralDodo
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These are tough times in Louisiana. Unemployment is at a record 12.5 percent, almost double since Edwards left office in 1979. Treen supporters blame the recession for devastating Louisiana’s crucial oil and gas industries...
This, for one. It wasn't really the recession, however, it was the beginning of the oil bust, which was due to circumstances beyond either Edwards' or Treen's control. OPEC was in a shambles, Iran and Iraq were selling oil as quick as they could (at lower prices) to finance their war against one another, and lots of North Sea oil began coming on line. Oilfield jobs went away, state oil tax royalties dropped like a stone-- and it was bad in Houston as well-- lots of people just leaving their houses and mortgages.
It only got worse, which is why Edwards saw the writing on the wall after the election of 1987 and pulled out of the runoff against Buddy Roemer. He knew he would lose.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:11 pm to GeneralDodo
Simple, he lied his arse off and promissed the world.
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