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re: Changes to upcoming stimulus - Hard Cap

Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:49 am to
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:49 am to
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The point is people making that much money shouldn’t be getting money anyway.


So it's a redistribution of wealth, not an economy stimulus?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
120066 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:12 am to
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Think of it as an unplanned donation.


So tax deductible?
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13686 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:22 am to
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Depends on what your definition of a stimulus is. If we want stimulus, everyone gets money.


This is supposed to be rescue plan, not a stimulus plan. Stimulus plans are euphemism for government handouts the Bush administration used, so Republicans would go along. If it’s for everyone, as you suggest, then why have any limitations if everyone gets money? This is not for everyone and should not be for everyone if you do not believe in socialism. It’s to help those that need it. People making over $75/150k a year do not need government hand outs. They may want them, but they do not need them.

My definition of stimulus is opening the economy back up. My definition of entitlement is what is being sent around every few months to buy a few votes. The poor are not using this for the intended purpose, which was rent and food, etc., that Biden claims this is helping millions of Americans with. People making in excess of $75k/150 are certainly not using it for mortgages or food.

People that railed against entitlements for years are now bitter that there is a tight phase out. No different than raising the welfare requirements. People were all of the sudden fine with entitlements when they started getting them.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:42 am to
whatever

our debasement of the dollar is only bullish for cryptos which is increasingly the main investment I care about because it will withstand the stupidity of government better than any other asset
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Member since Oct 2008
11351 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:48 am to
I haven't filed for 2020 yet. What does that mean for me?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32986 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:18 am to
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I haven't filed for 2020 yet. What does that mean for me?
Maybe something, maybe nothing. The going assumption is that if you haven't filed for 2020, they are going to base it off of your 2019 AGI, but if you have filed for 2020, then they'll base it off of your 2020 AGI.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
19275 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:38 am to
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you sound like a leach

Just someone willing to reconsider lifelong presumptions.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13686 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:54 am to
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our debasement of the dollar is only bullish for cryptos which is increasingly the main investment I care about because it will withstand the stupidity of government better than any other asset


Yellen and Warren are not going to regulate it?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:55 am to
Even more bullish
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:56 am to
The thing I don’t get, just because you made below a certain income last year, doesn’t mean that you have even out of work or need stimulus/assistance/help this year.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 8:57 am
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19570 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:05 am to
There should be minimums also

If you don't earn any why get any
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:03 am to
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Yellen and Warren are not going to regulate it?



The exchanges are already regulated and if you have a cold wallet good luck trying to do anything resembling confiscation.

The very idea of regulation is bullish anyway. It’ll make institutional investors feel better about the asset class.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16613 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:42 am to
What’s definition of “heads of household” ?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11321 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:50 am to
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our debasement of the dollar is only bullish for cryptos


Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12583 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:09 pm to
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Just FYI:
“Democrats are lowering the income caps for the $1,400 stimulus checks, here are the phase-out levels:
-$75,000 for single filers; capped at $80,000
-$112,500 for heads of households; capped at $120,000
-$150,000 for joint filers; capped at $160,000”


Sweet!

Since it’s a True Stimulus, add the $1 trillion not allocated and cut checks.
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
1908 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:31 pm to
Yeah I haven’t filed 2020 yet, and won’t until the stim goes out. ‘19 qualifies us, ‘20 would not.
Gonna play the game I guess
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:33 pm to
These stimulus checks are a waste of funds. You’re already giving out an increased payment to unemployed so what’s the point of the stimulus payments? Yes I will be getting it based on the income requirements but I still feel like it’s a waste of funds.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
1908 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 7:47 pm to
Oh it’s a complete waste!

But if the American tax dollars are going to pay for it - and I’m an American tax payer - I’m going to play the game and get it if that means I just need to wait to file taxes.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 7:22 am to
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So I’m assuming it’s based off 2020 taxes now?


Hopefully they would be able to use the most recent filing. However, the easier thing to do is just use the same year for everyone which would be 2019.
Posted by B4YOU
Member since May 2018
344 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:00 am to
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So it's a redistribution of wealth, not an economy stimulus?


$75k in Ville Platt, LA is not the same as $75k in SF, NYC, or DC. It’s a redistribution of wealth to low cost areas least affected by Covid. They should COLA the limits by zip code.
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