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Supreme Court to debate voting rights case that advocates worry will limit access to polls
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:50 am
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:50 am
WASHINGTON – Eduardo Sainz was standing at the front door of a home in Tucson, Arizona, encouraging the family inside to vote when the young man and his mom asked for a favor that under the state’s current law would make him a felon.
Sainz, state director of the Latino advocacy group Mi Familia Vota, said neither the young man, who was in a wheelchair, nor his mother had a car or the time needed to mail their ballots before Arizona’s gubernatorial election in 2014. They asked Sainz to drop off their ballots on his way home – and he agreed.
"It made the difference between participation and their ballot sitting on a shelf and not being counted,” said Sainz, whose group collected thousands of votes in similar encounters before the state banned such handoffs. “It was a connector to democracy.”
Related: Longer voting lines may be a sign of growing voter suppression
Five years after Arizona criminalized what critics call "ballot harvesting," and four months after a presidential election in which the practice was bitterly debated, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in a pair of cases that will determine when states may limit voting and, potentially, whether a provision of the 1965 Voting Rights Act will stand.
Arguments in the case are set for Tuesday.
Twenty-six states allow voters to designate a third party to turn in their ballots, though 12 of those states limit how many ballots a person may collect, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Ten states allow family members or caregivers to return ballots but not third-party groups such as Mi Familia Vota.
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Sainz, state director of the Latino advocacy group Mi Familia Vota, said neither the young man, who was in a wheelchair, nor his mother had a car or the time needed to mail their ballots before Arizona’s gubernatorial election in 2014. They asked Sainz to drop off their ballots on his way home – and he agreed.
"It made the difference between participation and their ballot sitting on a shelf and not being counted,” said Sainz, whose group collected thousands of votes in similar encounters before the state banned such handoffs. “It was a connector to democracy.”
Related: Longer voting lines may be a sign of growing voter suppression
Five years after Arizona criminalized what critics call "ballot harvesting," and four months after a presidential election in which the practice was bitterly debated, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in a pair of cases that will determine when states may limit voting and, potentially, whether a provision of the 1965 Voting Rights Act will stand.
Arguments in the case are set for Tuesday.
Twenty-six states allow voters to designate a third party to turn in their ballots, though 12 of those states limit how many ballots a person may collect, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Ten states allow family members or caregivers to return ballots but not third-party groups such as Mi Familia Vota.
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:52 am to cajunangelle
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Related: Longer voting lines may be a sign of growing voter suppression
If you're too lazy to stand in line you don't deserve to vote. Pretty simple. Same goes for if you cant pay 5$ for an ID every 6 or 8 years.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:53 am to cajunangelle
Seems like a massive chain of custody problem allowing people to do this sport of ballot harvesting.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:55 am to cajunangelle
Sorry, Eduardo, but "chain of custody" is rather important with ballots.
The USPS does not really have any incentive to jack with mailed ballots, but "voting advocacy groups" (Left OR Right) usually have EVERY incentive to do so.
I gotta say "comply with the law."
The USPS does not really have any incentive to jack with mailed ballots, but "voting advocacy groups" (Left OR Right) usually have EVERY incentive to do so.
I gotta say "comply with the law."
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:56 am to cajunangelle
They will hear shite cases like this. They did not have enough time to mail the ballot?, but not from some other parties filing cases? Is this not prejudicial?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:56 am to cajunangelle
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Sainz, state director of the Latino advocacy group Mi Familia Vota, said neither the young man, who was in a wheelchair, nor his mother had a car or the time needed to mail their ballots before Arizona’s gubernatorial election in 2014. They asked Sainz to drop off their ballots on his way home – and he agreed.
"It made the difference between participation and their ballot sitting on a shelf and not being counted,” said Sainz, whose group collected thousands of votes in similar encounters before the state banned such handoffs. “It was a connector to democracy.”
So, this mother and son NEVER leave the house?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:57 am to cajunangelle
quote:OMG the polls are open 12 hours in a day. frick go first thing in the FGD morning and wait your 30 min. No one is suppressing your right, stop being lazy and wanting shite to happen as you step into the polling place.
Related: Longer voting lines may be a sign of growing voter suppression
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:57 am to cajunangelle
What’s to stop some dude pretending to be part of a “voting rights” group going around collecting ballots then instead of turning them in he throws them in a dumpster? Not only does ballot harvesting open the door to fraud, it also opens her door to voter suppression.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:57 am to cajunangelle
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neither the young man, who was in a wheelchair, nor his mother had a car or the time needed to mail their ballots
Sounds like a problem of decision making to me.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:03 pm to cajunangelle
The policies of this country are so screwed up. I was reading about all the scrutiny the recall signatures will have to undergo in CA to recall Newsom. They are checked and crosschecked, signature verified, address verification required and they can be tossed if they make a single mistake. Compare that to the actual election vote verification process.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:05 pm to cajunangelle
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Sainz, state director of the Latino advocacy group Mi Familia Vota, said neither the young man, who was in a wheelchair, nor his mother had a car
How far away is their damned mailbox?
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or the time needed to mail their ballots before Arizona’s gubernatorial election in 2014. They asked Sainz to drop off their ballots on his way home – and he agreed.
So, the truth comes out - they're too lazy to learn to vote legally.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:06 pm to cajunangelle
List of things that I call bullshite on in this stupid fricking piece of propaganda
1- the wheelchair bound man who lives with his mother and the mother asked Eduardo to “drop off their ballots” as a “favor”
2- The wheelchair dude and his mother don’t have a postman that comes to pick up mail at their house.
3- Wheelchair dude and his mother actually filled out the ballots that Eduardo harvested from them and then mailed, out of the goodness of his heart
4- wheelchair dude and his mother are very busy, and thus lack the time to put their ballots in the place where the mailman picks up and delivers their mail at their own fricking house
1- the wheelchair bound man who lives with his mother and the mother asked Eduardo to “drop off their ballots” as a “favor”
2- The wheelchair dude and his mother don’t have a postman that comes to pick up mail at their house.
3- Wheelchair dude and his mother actually filled out the ballots that Eduardo harvested from them and then mailed, out of the goodness of his heart
4- wheelchair dude and his mother are very busy, and thus lack the time to put their ballots in the place where the mailman picks up and delivers their mail at their own fricking house
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:06 pm to cajunangelle
The left are grifters. They don’t give a flip about that dude or anyone else’s voting rights. If tomorrow the left perceived that poor people and minority people were mostly Republicans, they’d demand the strictest voting rules possible.
They have no principles. They don’t even perceive that there must be a balance between so-called voter access and voting authenticity and accuracy. Accountability is not in their vocabulary.
They have no principles. They don’t even perceive that there must be a balance between so-called voter access and voting authenticity and accuracy. Accountability is not in their vocabulary.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:09 pm to cajunangelle
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It was a connector to democracy.
frick off
It was a connector to voter fraud
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:21 pm to cajunangelle
quote:bullshite. You just have your mail carrier pick it up from the doorstep.
the time needed to mail their ballots before Arizona’s gubernatorial election in 2014
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:23 pm to cajunangelle
This is very bad stuff. I dealt with local election prosecutions where "cultured" individuals would go door to door with ballots and sign people up. They'd straight up forge the ballots most of the time, but the smarter ones knew how to game it. They'd go to low turnout and poor neighborhoods and learn who the person voted for as they filled out ballots. They'd put the wrong ballots in a separate stack and throw them away when they were done. Theyd then turn in a few hundred ballots for their guy and win every time.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:38 pm to cajunangelle
This has little to do with real-case scenarios and everything to do with providing cover for continued and expanded fraud. It’s the only way DemProgs can win - we know it and they themselves know it.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:44 pm to cajunangelle
My county, Denton County, has everything required for anyone with any level of disability, to be able to vote. Can't get out of the car because of a disability? Not a problem. Quadriplegic? Not a problem. Can't leave home? Not a problem. Get an absentee ballot by requesting it and it will be sent. You'll get plenty of time to send it in.
This is all about harvesting for the sake of political misuse, not for anything else.
This is all about harvesting for the sake of political misuse, not for anything else.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:33 pm to cajunangelle
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neither the young man, who was in a wheelchair, nor his mother had a car or the time needed to mail their ballots before Arizona’s gubernatorial election in 2014.
I call bs. They have someone to take them places. Do they stay shut in the house 24/7/365? How do they get to medical appointments, etc.? I call bs on not having the time, too. Everyone who planned to vote knew the election date well ahead of time.
So why should the laws and procedures be changed to accommodate people who are too lazy to plan ahead?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:17 pm to cajunangelle
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Sainz, state director of the Latino advocacy group Mi Familia Vota, said neither the young man, who was in a wheelchair, nor his mother had a car or the time needed to mail their ballots before Arizona’s gubernatorial election in 2014. They asked Sainz to drop off their ballots on his way home – and he agreed.
This is such as bull shite cover story that the Sainz guy is making up for a few reasons.
He wants legal money for his business of ballot harvesting and he decided to find an elderly person and a handicap person as his subject for a reason why for it to be legal. Pulling on strings by using poor elderly and handicap son. The Sainz guys is just testing to make a buck for himself under the false pretense of his advocacy group
Plus he is getting backing by the left because he's helping with their attempt to radically change the way people can vote making it easier for them to stuff the boxes with vitws for their candidate of choice.
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