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How is revoking the permit for the Keystone Pipeline Expansion good for the environment?

Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:36 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1760 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:36 am
To all the new lefties on the board, can you explain to me how revoking the permit for the Keystone Pipeline Expansion is actually good for the environment? We went from a method of transport which needs only electrically driven booster pumps where necessary to a method of transport that uses hundreds of "dirty" railcars or semi trucks? I thought electrical power was the gold standard in clean energy? I'll hang up and listen...
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 8:55 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32367 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:37 am to
Warren Buffett has to get paid, duh.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25702 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:38 am to
It’s like putting out a request for bids. Give enough to Hunter, include the big guy, your project can continue
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8738 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:40 am to
Unfortunately it's not about sound logic or reason. The leftist agenda is all about hurting the oil industry. The oil industry is one of the last bastions of mostly free capitalism with limited government interference and they want control. The industry has plenty of issues, many self inflicted, but a baseless decision like shutting down this pipeline will be a net negative to lots of parties. While it will hurt the environment more to ship with rail or trucks Mr. Buffett donates a lot of money to democratic politicians and his railroad investments stand to benefit handsomely.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1760 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:46 am to
I guess while we are on the topic of electricity being the "gold standard" for clean energy, can any of the leftists explain that one to me as well? They do realize that you have to burn fossil fuels in order to create it, right? You dont just plug into the wall and it's there....Oh, and lets just completely disregard the fact that the transfer of one form of energy (fossil fuels) to another (electricity) is riddled with physical inefficiencies....
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 8:48 am
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8082 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:47 am to
The barrels that would have been on KXL will like the OP said be transferred by rail or truck to the US OR will be put on the Transmountain pipeline to Vancouver. Those barrels will then be shipped to likely Chinese refineries which aren't near as environmentally friendly as US refineries. US Gulf Coast refineries that would be buying heavy Canadian crude will have to buy heavy barrels elsewhere...likely from Venezuela, Saudi, or Iraq.

Overall KXL cancellation just makes gasoline/diesel more expensive for the average American.

This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 8:57 am
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89718 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:58 am to
quote:

To all the new lefties on the board, can you explain to me how revoking the permit for the Keystone Pipeline Expansion is actually good for the environment? We went from a method of transport which needs only electrically driven booster pumps where necessary to a method of transport that uses hundreds of "dirty" railcars or semi trucks? I thought electrical power was the gold standard in clean energy? I'll hang up and listen...



its all a big show, it really does nothing for the environment
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6032 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:00 pm to
Killing entire ecosystems with solar panels and wind farms is better for the earth than a pipe.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:01 pm to
I thought it was about the indians?
Posted by pistolpete23
In the present
Member since Dec 2007
7263 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:02 pm to


Map of pipelines in the US.. doubt one more would matter... but have let’s kill 20k jobs with the stroke of a pen
Posted by jvargas
Member since Feb 2019
1028 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:04 pm to
But but it messes up the caribou habitat.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109370 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

To all the new lefties on the board, can you explain to me how revoking the permit for the Keystone Pipeline Expansion is actually good for the environment? We went from a method of transport which needs only electrically driven booster pumps where necessary to a method of transport that uses hundreds of "dirty" railcars or semi trucks? I thought electrical power was the gold standard in clean energy? I'll hang up and listen...




I'm sure Joe will have a good cogent explanation for all of this when asked at his next press conference.
Posted by TotalPotato
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2018
151 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:18 pm to
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Since 2010, there were concerns that a pipeline spill could threaten the Ogallala Aquifer, one of the world's largest fresh water reserves. The Ogallala Aquifer spans eight states, provides drinking water for two million people, and supports $20 billion in agriculture.[128] Critics say that a major leak could ruin drinking water and devastate the mid-western U.S. economy.

Wiki
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11842 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:20 pm to
A lot of it does have to do w/ the Indians....reminds me of Yellowstone lol.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:21 pm to
It's good for West Texas oil baws.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30229 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:22 pm to
Remember when Slow Joe said he would always level with us.....well he lied about that on this one.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:28 pm to
Same way raising taxes will help with deficit.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
3563 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:30 pm to
Revoking the permit for the Keystone Pipeline benefits Russian oligarchs.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22003 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:00 pm to
The left will do what they can to raise the price of conventional energy so that "alternate" energy sources appear to be an economical substitute.
Posted by randombamafan
georgia
Member since Jan 2021
18 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:42 pm to
Its not. Its meant to crash the economy so we will go broke.
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