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re: UFC Tripleheader on fight island, Saturday(ABC debut), Wednesday, Saturday events

Posted on 1/25/21 at 10:15 am to
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 10:15 am to
Nobody in the world would beat Khabib.

Dustin hasn't lost a fight to anyone other than Khabib in 5 years.

He avenged the Diaz lost.

Think you are overreacting regarding the demise of Conor.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15242 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 11:43 am to
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He didn't lose shjt. He lost a fight it happens in the UFC.


Don't know how you can say that. With each loss, his stock goes down farther and farther as a top draw. He's been stopped in 3 of his last 6 fights.

Plus ANY talks about climbing back into a boxing ring to fight in that sport for big money are now out the window. But in all honesty, it shouldn't have been there in the first place since he would get starched by even journeymen boxers.

Don't let that 10 rounds he went with Mayweather turn your head into thinking the guy can box. Floyd could have KO'd the guy in almost any round he wanted. He just chose to carry him for that long.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4378 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:06 pm to
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Go back and watch that Aldo and Diaz fights.


I agree to your overall point but there’s nothing to watch in that Aldo fight.


The truth is Connor can’t wrestle and the fear of being taken down limits his striking making him less of a fighter at what he does best.

Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8453 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:19 pm to
It’s so annoying when someone loses a match at this level, and the fair weather UFC fans are ready to toss them out... I don’t get it. Yes he looked a little different, but he still looked good. I wouldn’t write off McGregor just yet, I still believe he competes at a very high level


One thing post fight that caught my attention was what Poirier said about chandler... he said that a fight with him doesn’t make sense and that he didn’t put in his time yet to get a title shot... I sort of agree with him but I don’t think that it is a good ‘look’

How do y’all feel?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:13 pm to
Dustin vs Conor 3 is the most logical fight. Dustin gets another giant pay day, Conor gets a chance to reclaim his spot. UFC makes the most money
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4378 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:36 pm to
Dustin would do that in a heart beat I’m sure
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:41 pm to
Dustin caught me off guard when he said he wanted to fight Diaz. I believe he should get a title shot next


Will also be interesting to see what gaethje’s next fight is. He lost to khabib, so he should still only be one or two fights away from another title shot IMO
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:42 pm to
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I wouldn’t write off McGregor just yet, I still believe he competes at a very high level



I don’t see how anyone can say he’s not capable of competing at a very high level.

The problem is he has very limited paths to victory against the top 5 guys. It’s also appears he doesn’t have the touch of death in that left hand at 155.

Let’s break down the top guys and see:

Khabib: enough said, got schooled
Dustin: we just saw this and he got KO’d
Olivera: what’s connors path? This guy just dominated frickin Tony on the ground and on the feet. He could do exactly what khabib did
Gaethje: I would have said the best matchup for Connor but after seeing what those leg kicks did to him is this really the guy to fix that against?
Chandler: world class wrestling with one shot power. Not great for Connor

Once again Connor is very good but I don’t see him earning another legit title shot. He’s just behind the deepest division in all of mma
Posted by Fenwick86
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:47 pm to
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One thing post fight that caught my attention was what Poirier said about chandler... he said that a fight with him doesn’t make sense and that he didn’t put in his time yet to get a title shot... I sort of agree with him but I don’t think that it is a good ‘look’


I agree with DP. Obviously he isn't scared of anyone, feels like he should've just finished Conor for the belt and rightfully so. They gave away Cejudo's belt right after he "retired". Seems like Dana wanted Conor to win so bad in the hopes of getting Khabib/Conor rematch for the title.

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“I can guarantee I won’t be fighting Michael Chandler,” Poirier said at the UFC 257 post-fight press conference. “They can do whatever they want with the division. I don’t really care. If something makes sense, then we’ll do it.”

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“I’ve just been putting in work. That’s why I’m sitting here feeling like I can talk about it, because I’ve been in the division and the UFC for a long time, fighting the best of the best of the best,” Poirier said. “No disrespect to [Chandler], he seems like a good husband, a good father, he speaks well, has a lot of respect, carries himself very well. It’s not a knock against him. It’s just my feelings toward the division and the sport. I lost to Khabib [at UFC 242], I came out and put on a ‘Fight of the Year’ [vs. Hooker] for you guys, got my hand raised against a top-five opponent after that. Then I come in there and Khabib doesn’t want to come back, then I knock out one of the biggest fights you can get. I knock this guy out, too.


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“Khabib reiterates he doesn’t want to fight any more – dude, I’m the champ. I’m not going to fight, some – and like I said, respect to Chandler – a new guy to the UFC who just beat a guy that’s coming off a loss that I just beat for the belt. That’s not exciting to me.”


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“I think he has more [of a case],” Poirier said. “I’ve been watching that guy for 10 years in the UFC, two different weight classes. He’s fought the best of the best, over and over again. And, he’s been knocked down and gotten up, and he’s proven what MMA and perseverance is. I respect that. Not that I don’t respect Michael Chandler. I just think there’s more work for him to do than beat a guy I just beat.”


He's absolutely right. His next fight should be Oliveira for the belt. Have Conor or Gaethje (2 elite fighters DP already beat) fight Chandler next. Would be yet another slight to DP to let Chandler skip those tests. Missing in all of this is they didn't want to pay Dustin what he deserved to fight Ferguson which is why the Conor fight ended up happening.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8453 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:49 pm to
No I agree with his reasoning behind what he said, it just didn’t seem like something he would say. I’m pretty sure him and chandler are buddies


But you’re (and Dustin) 100% right
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43659 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 6:39 pm to
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It’s also appears he doesn’t have the touch of death in that left hand at 155.


What makes you think that? He had Dustin reeling a few times in the fight. I thought Dustin was on his way to going down about 3/4 into the first and then the leg kicks took their toll. Those call kicks really just started being a thing and this is the first time he has had to deal with them. The real question is will he be motivated to put in the work to improve. He is young still and has all the talent in the world, but does he have the motivation now with all the money and everything he has going on.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4378 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 7:57 pm to
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What makes you think that


Because I haven’t seen any evidence he does.

He’s squared up everyone he’s fought and hasn’t flat lined any of them.

He has to accumulate punches at 155 instead of stoning guys. That’s just the evidence.

That’s a huge issue bc if he can’t one hit guys and they have a deeper tool box than him they will most likely take over as the fight goes on.

This was what we saw vs khabib and porier
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82056 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 8:43 pm to
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With each loss, his stock goes down farther and farther as a top draw

The man is still a PPV machine.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16911 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 11:00 pm to
Video reactions of the KO...some sad, some happy

Funniest reaction was the dude in camouflage at 2:30. You knew he was rooting to Poirier. Goes from chilling - smiling - laughing - screaming - fist pumping - “Merica!!”.

Indian guy was funny too.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67005 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:08 am to
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The man is still a PPV machine.


Have the PPV numbers been posted?

This is the first fight I’ve bought in a while but we had people over and I didn’t want to get hampered by some wonky stream.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82056 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:26 am to
Numbers aren't final but it's going to be behind McGregor vs Khabib and just ahead of McGregor vs Diaz 2.
So yeah second best of all time it's looking like
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67005 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:21 am to
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So yeah second best of all time it's looking like



Awesome. Couldn't be happier for DP. That dude really paid his dues.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:34 am to
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Numbers aren't final but it's going to be behind McGregor vs Khabib and just ahead of McGregor vs Diaz 2.
So yeah second best of all time it's looking like



Wonder how the refunds are gonna effect that overall numbers?

I know of people that tried to buy the PPV through ESPN+ but couldn’t get it to work because of those technical issues, yet were still charged for it and have asked for a refund
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82056 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:00 am to
Different situation this past week since it was so widespread, but based on experience trying to get a refund on PPVs has always been a waste of time
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7962 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:41 am to
Limpdick Connor fans look like the CNN panel when Hilldog lost
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