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re: Animal Farm and 1984
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:44 pm to NorthEndZone
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:44 pm to NorthEndZone
I almost did. Should have. Thanks.
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:53 pm to DykonIcon
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George Orwell was an outspoken socialist.
Yes... Animal Farm was his warning about Communism and 1984 was his warning about right-wing Totalitarianism... the same ends no matter which extreme you go to...
He thought the perfect center was Democratic Socialism, which put him just a little left of England in his lifetime.
He was also a member of the Antifa.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:53 pm to Rex Feral
I think he's saying the teachers are saying this, not the message from the book.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:09 pm to Lee B
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Yes... Animal Farm was his warning about Communism and 1984 was his warning about right-wing Totalitarianism... the same ends no matter which extreme you go to...
Nah, 1984 was Stalin.
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Great Britain, known as Airstrip One, has become a province of a totalitarian superstate named Oceania that is ruled by the Party who employ the Thought Police to persecute individuality and independent thinking.
This is present day left wing.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:13 pm to Barroom
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They probably use them as manuals instead of warnings as they were intended
1984 is #2 bestseller on amazon right now
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:16 pm to CoolKat
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Are these books even read or discussed in schools anymore?
No need, we’re living 1984 right now.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:11 pm to ksayetiger
quote:A day or 2 ago it was #1. Obviously recent events are (big tech & MSM censorship and disinfo/propaganda) prompting resurgence of interest in these dystopian novels.
1984 is #2 bestseller on amazon right now
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:16 pm to 2020_reVISION
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If you had just followed that up with Pink Floyd/Animals, which is actually conceptual with a message. Don't get me wrong, I've seen & love Van Halen.
Or I could've ended with on a farm with animals. But that woudn't be true. I really did read both of those books in 1984, and I used to listen to my "1984"(great album) tape while reading. Both of those books were required reading in the same grade in my school.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:20 am to TDcline
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You’re talking about Eric Arthur Blair. He was a socialist.
He was a socialist who despised totalitarianism. In other words, very confused.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:23 am to CoolKat
I read animal farm in high school 15 years ago but not 1984. Picked it up at the library yesterday and was surprised at how small the book is
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:31 am to tigersbh
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No need, we’re living 1984 right now.
That means there IS a need.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:34 am to Wee Ice Mon
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My daughter read Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451 during 1st quarter of freshman year this year.
We waste all these great literary books on 13-year-olds. And most classes don’t even discuss them. They simply force you to read them and then MoveOn. these books should be read and analyzed as juniors and seniors. And they should be taught as thought-provoking pieces. Not some kind of ancient literature you have to read and then throw away and forget.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:37 am to NorthEndZone
Go ahead and add:
Ayn Rand: Anthem
Ray Bradbury: Fahrenheit 451
Ayn Rand: Anthem
Ray Bradbury: Fahrenheit 451
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:37 am to CoolKat
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:47 am to CoolKat
Orwell hated Communists (USSR) and Fascists (Nazi Germany)
Animal Farm was Germany and USSR
Animal Farm was Germany and USSR
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:53 am to Wee Ice Mon
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My daughter read Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451 during 1st quarter of freshman year this year.
My two sons are freshmen this year. They read Fahrenheit 451 during the 1st semester. I know they are reading Animal Farm in the 2nd...I don't believe they are reading 1984 this year.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:54 am to CoolKat
I downloaded the animal farm animation to get my young one started off. Also downloading as much as I can from the last year or so.
Examples:
Fraud hearings
Kavanaugh hearings
ACB hearings
Trump speeches
The idea is to protect the historical record and to combat the inevitable indoctrination. The kavanaugh hearings are especially good to show how these so called tolerant ppl truly behave.
Examples:
Fraud hearings
Kavanaugh hearings
ACB hearings
Trump speeches
The idea is to protect the historical record and to combat the inevitable indoctrination. The kavanaugh hearings are especially good to show how these so called tolerant ppl truly behave.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:57 am to viceman
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I read both Animal Farm and 1984 in 1984, in part while listening to Van Halen's 1984.
I read them both my Freshman year 1983-84...listened to Van Halen on cassette tapes that Spring semester as well. Still one of the most awesome albums of all time.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:06 am to dgnx6
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Nah, 1984 was Stalin.
No, not totally... the movie version in 1984 used a face that looked like Stalin and that was used on printing of the book and seems to be what people fixate on...
it was not set in Russia, was it? It was set in (the former) England. It was his examination of England's Government at the time going so far to the right, led by Industrialist Oligarchs, that it ended up in Totalitarianism, and there is no difference in which direction you go to the extremes, the outcome will ultimately be the same. England's government is "Socialist," so even the right-wing parties are a version of Socialism. "Ingsoc," the party of Big Brother, is a Fascist Totalitarian party. To look at it through America's political lens distorts it on that end.
I have friends who are English and they know this... it is how they are taught about the book, and they laugh that the American right use it only to criticize the Left. A great example one of them was laughing at was "Freedom Fries." Politicizing the name of French Fries to signify who among us is patriotic enough. Yes, the Left does a lot of this frivolous horse shite, too... and that's the point. Stalin is part of the character because anybody who wants to maintain complete power and control will be like Stalin. Putin aspires to return to the glory of those days... Modi in India... Kim in North Korea...
Trump is the closest thing to Big Brother I have seen. The utter faith and fealty people had to that false image of him... "I would die for Trump!" Not for America, for a guy who, as somewhere correctly put it, now jets off to play golf and tries to keep himself out of jail. Is he paying bail or using the money he raised for fighting the election legally to help the people he led into deep shite at the Capitol riot? No, he isn't. point being... all of the tattos and hats and branding that people did for this one figure, all of the faith and devotion, the talk of "he should be President for life" or having his family continue indefinitely (I noticed a thread just popped up for "Ivanka 2024!)... that's Big Brother.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 8:09 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:09 am to CoolKat
Progressive fascists view government as liberators of freedom and in 1984 the government is the source of oppression. They have an easy out they think.
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