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Tom Herman's dubious claim to fame. The 2014 Ohio State Natty? Not so fast

Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:38 pm
Herman got out of Cardale Jones way. That's about it.

Jones didn't run the Meyer/Herman Zone Read Option. No one had much hope they could avoid a blowout by Wisconsin. Cardale reverted to the offense he knew, and long-bombed Wisky. And he gave the ball to Zeke Elliot, and Cardale steam-rolled LBs and DBs when plays broke down. Cardale knocked off, Wisky, Bama, then Oregon. Won the Natty.

Cardale ran his pro-style offense. Not some genius O from Herman.

The next season, instead of running Cardale's crude but highly effective backyard pro-style O, Meyer forced him to run the Read/Option. Square peg, round hole. Cardale, was till undefeated as a starting QB, but didn't take to the R/O and so he was replaced by JT.

So, just as Malzahn flipped the keys to Newton to win a Natty, Herman flipped them to Cardale in'14.

Herman=Malzahn They got out of the way.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 9:53 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:39 pm to
Dear Patreon
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:40 pm to
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So, just as Malzahn flipped the keys to Newton to win a Natty, Herman flipped them to Cardale.


Malzahn went back to another BCS game as coach and had beaten bama what 3 or 4 times while there (way more than we did in same time span).

Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
423 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:42 pm to
LSU would've been better off with him than Coach Owe
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23136 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:43 pm to
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The next season, instead of running Cardale's crude but highly effective backyard pro-style O, Herman/Meyer forced him to run the Read/Option. Square peg, round hole. Cardale, was till undefeated as a starting QB, but didn't take to the R/O and so he was replaced by JT.



I mean how fing dumb are you? Herman wasn't even on the staff in 2015.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:10 pm to
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Jones didn't run the Meyer/Herman Zone Read Option


many QBs run the zone read option play. see burrow and how good he was at it.

CUM ran a power/smashmouth spread offense at OSU which did have power reads as a staple of his offense. I am sure he ran zone reads also though within that offense.

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Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42863 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:15 pm to
Yeah, I bet Herman just sat there twiddling his thumbs during the 2014 playoffs while Cardale ran his own offense.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:21 pm to
I’m no Tom Herman fan or apologist, but what he did in 2014 was damn impressive.

Basically had the offense designed around Braxton Miller, then ran through the season (sans Va. Tech) with a backup quarterback, and then won the Big Ten CG and the CFP - including beating Bama - with a third stringer.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:09 pm to
As far as I'm concerned, his claim is that he was the Iowa state oc that beat okie state which put bama in the rematch game against LSU which eventually got Les fired.
Posted by BogeyTX
Member since Apr 2018
677 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:25 pm to
Lol Herman did good at Houston. A lot of people don’t realize Houston had some talent when Herman got there.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30615 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:02 am to
Cardale was a man with no fear in those 3 games. He basically said frick it and went balls to the wall knowing he had nothing to lose. Incredible run of games, one of the best we’ll ever see. He put it all on red like 15 times in a row and came up a winner every time

But Urban was right to try to install Cardale into his offense the following year. It wasn’t good for Cardale, but that offense just churns out wins against lesser teams and puts out gaudy stats year after year, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 9:05 am
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