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Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the Chargers

Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:32 pm


. Eli was right

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It's been 12 years since the San Diego Chargers made Eli Manning the No. 1 overall pick in the 2004 NFL Draft, and to this day, not much is known about why Manning refused to play in San Diego. Just days before the draft, Manning's agent Tom Condon, told the Chargers that Eli would sit out the entire 2004 season if the team drafted him with the first overall pick. At the time, former Chargers general manager A.J. Smith partly blamed Eli's dad, Archie Manning, for the mess. "[Condon] told me that Archie wishes that we do not select Eli and that they think he would be a good fit in New York (with the Giants)," Smith said in 2004, via the San Diego Union Tribune. "We understand his position and certainly understand his interest in New York, but we will do what we think is the best for the franchise." There were a lot of theories on why Eli didn't want to play for the Chargers. The Union-Tribune reported that the Manning camp didn't want Eli's career to end up like Archie's. The elder Manning spent 11 years in New Orleans and never had a winning record with the team. Going into 2004, the Chargers were on an ugly run and had only put together a total of four winning seasons since 1983. Although Archie has long been viewed as one of the main instigators in Eli's decision, he recently disputed that notion. In an interview with the Rich Eisen Show, Archie said he had nothing to do with Eli's threat to sit out the season if the Chargers drafted him. "It was a decision that Eli and Tom Condon kind of made, but Eli ultimately pulled the trigger on that and that's what he, doing his due diligence, decided to do," Archie Manning said. "I can't say it was pleasant from our end. Most people thought I orchestrated it, but I didn't. I don't tell my kids what to do or make their decisions." In Archie's version of the story, Eli came to him for advice, but never asked him directly what he should do. "It's a tough deal. It's hard. That was the only thing I told Eli when he told me he was going to do that," Archie said. "Think about it hard. If that's your conviction and what you want to do, then that's fine, and that's what he did." In the end, the Chargers would end up drafting Eli with the No. 1 overall pick and trading him to the Giants. However, before the trade went down, Eli had to pose for what will likely go down as the most awkward draft day photo in NFL history. eli-chargers-nfl-draft-06-27-16.jpg This might go down as the most awkward draft photo of all-time. Getty Images Things got so awkward before the Giants trade went down that Eli actually said he would rather go to law school than play for the Chargers. In the end, the trade did go down and everyone came out a winner, according to Archie. Eli went to New York and the Chargers came away with Philip Rivers plus several draft picks. "I think everybody came out good on the deal," Archie said. "The Chargers sure got a mighty good quarterback that day. Eli's happy in New York." The truth is that we may not ever know why Eli refused to play for the Chargers and that's mainly because it doesn't sound like he's ever going to tell us. In 2013, before the Giants played in San Diego, Eli was asked why he didn't want to play for the Chargers. His answer? "I forgot." It's been theorized that the Manning camp didn't like the way the Chargers handled quarterbacks -- Drew Brees had a rough first two seasons in San Diego, and that came after the Ryan Leaf debacle. There's also the possibility that Condon thought the Chargers wouldn't be a good fit. At the time, Condon represented the Chargers coach (Marty Schottenheimer), quarterback (Brees) and running back (LaDainian Tomlinson). Ironically enough, the Chargers are one of only three teams that Eli Manning has never beaten in his career, along with the Colts and the Giants.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:39 pm to
Archie is awesome. Seems like a world class father and man. Recommend The Book of Manning for those that haven’t seen it.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74319 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:40 pm to
Could have just said the Spanos Family are massive slimy a holes and everyone would understand
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57531 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:48 pm to
You should work for buzzfeed

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The truth is that we may not ever know why Eli refused to play for the Chargers and that's mainly because it doesn't sound like he's ever going to tell us.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51605 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:52 pm to
holy wall of text. can i get some of cliff's notes?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35645 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:53 pm to
That post made me seasick.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16437 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:10 pm to
I learned no details in that post. What a let down
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20689 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:20 pm to
Worked out for everyone in the end. Both teams got franchise qbs for the next 15 years.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17183 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:24 pm to
Archie and Eli pulled this off like a boss.

John Elway (and his dad Jack) did too when he came out of college.

If you aren’t hurting for money, and you are a stud QB, you should have some say in which team you play for. A franchise can literally make or destroy a QB’s career.

Imagine if Joe Montana or John Elway would’ve played for a team like the Browns. Or Eli with the Chargers or Jags. They’d be nobodies, and (at best) had a career like Philip Rivers or Matthew Stafford.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33968 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:26 pm to
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At the time, Condon represented the Chargers coach (Marty Schottenheimer), quarterback (Brees) and running back (LaDainian Tomlinson)


This was the real reason why Eli didn't play for the Chargers. It was all orchestrated by his agent. Archie himself alluded to it saying that it was "Eli and Tom Condon's decision". The relationship between Marty and the Chargers front office was already starting to go downhill plus drafting Eli would have hurt the earnings potential of another Condon client, Drew Brees.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76554 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:26 pm to
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Worked out for everyone in the end. Both teams got franchise qbs for the next 15 years.


San Diego actually got 2.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17348 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:43 pm to
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However, before the trade went down, Eli had to pose for what will likely go down as the most awkward draft day photo in NFL history


Funny because thats a pretty normal occurrence in the NBA draft
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59132 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:48 pm to
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Imagine if Joe Montana or John Elway would’ve played for a team like the Browns.


Montana was a 3rd round pick and his 2nd year Browns QB Brian Sipe was NFL MVP. Elway beat the Browns 3 times to go to the Super Bowl so how exactly would he been worse off since he was the reason the Browns never made the SB

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had a career like Philip Rivers


2007 when Eli and the Giants won their first SB the Chargers were in the AFCCG they also had a year were they were 14-2 Eli’s SB they Giants just got hot in the playoffs. I can kinda see the point that at the time SD was bad with Brees and Leaf but they were fine during Rivers career, though Jacob Hester refers to the as the Bush league Bolts so they were still cheap
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 7:49 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45093 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:49 pm to
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Imagine if Joe Montana or John Elway would’ve played for a team like the Browns


Elway with the Browns in the mid-late 1980s would have won at least one Super Bowl. Those teams were loaded.
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:52 pm to


Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
10723 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:01 pm to
frick the Manning’s!
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:50 pm to
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frick the Manning’s

STFU!
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:13 pm to
I think the reason is Condon didn’t want to frick Brees and had an inside to the Chargers organization and how it was working. Like Archie said, it worked out for everyone, even Rivers
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18027 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 6:05 am to
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details on why Eli refused to play for the Chargers



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The truth is that we may not ever know why Eli refused to play for the Chargers and that's mainly because it doesn't sound like he's ever going to tell us.


Me: .....

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 6:30 am to
4 years old?
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