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Considering Purchasing a 3/4 ton Diesel
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:14 am
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:14 am
I have needed to haul equipment for work/play several times over the last year and have been limited by my half ton truck. I started looking at diesels for a used one and holy hell. They are high.
My requirements:
4 doors (kids)
Full console (just a preference)
Leather
Any opinions on jumping into the 3/4 tons regarding which ones to buy? I also even considered the gas burner 3/4 ton simply due to money.
My requirements:
4 doors (kids)
Full console (just a preference)
Leather
Any opinions on jumping into the 3/4 tons regarding which ones to buy? I also even considered the gas burner 3/4 ton simply due to money.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:31 am to teambooyah
The key thing is where do you live?
If BR, NOLA, Lafayette- a gas 3/4 ton will suit you just fine. It’s the hills that make towing heavy stuff w/o a diesel no fun.
Modern 3/4 ton gas trucks have come a long way- I have a 2016 Chevy 2500 HD gas with nearly 200k miles and all it does is pull a gooseneck. The truck has NEVER been to the shop- original battery, alternator, starter, etc.
OTOH, modern diesels are something else- the numbers they put out are 18 wheeler territory from just a few years ago. BUUUUT....be prepared to work on them.
They are maintenance nightmares- the DIY oil change will cost you over $100.
You’ll need to change fuel filters that you never had to before.
And- when the DEF goes bad, or a sensor goes nuts- be prepared for it to ride on a tow truck to the dealership to sort it out. It’s not a matter of IF, it’s a WHEN. The EPA has such strict emissions rules, the systems are inherently complex and thus prone to problems.
Look at major equipment dealership service fleets- like Herc Rentals- all the service trucks have gone to gas. The cost/benefit of the fuel savings doesn’t make sense anymore when all the major truck manufacturers make a gas that can handle service duty.
In addition- this is the one that really got me- a few years ago, if you walked up to a Ford dealership- there wasn’t a single 3/4 ton gas truck. Now, half of them are. There’s a reason for that.
If BR, NOLA, Lafayette- a gas 3/4 ton will suit you just fine. It’s the hills that make towing heavy stuff w/o a diesel no fun.
Modern 3/4 ton gas trucks have come a long way- I have a 2016 Chevy 2500 HD gas with nearly 200k miles and all it does is pull a gooseneck. The truck has NEVER been to the shop- original battery, alternator, starter, etc.
OTOH, modern diesels are something else- the numbers they put out are 18 wheeler territory from just a few years ago. BUUUUT....be prepared to work on them.
They are maintenance nightmares- the DIY oil change will cost you over $100.
You’ll need to change fuel filters that you never had to before.
And- when the DEF goes bad, or a sensor goes nuts- be prepared for it to ride on a tow truck to the dealership to sort it out. It’s not a matter of IF, it’s a WHEN. The EPA has such strict emissions rules, the systems are inherently complex and thus prone to problems.
Look at major equipment dealership service fleets- like Herc Rentals- all the service trucks have gone to gas. The cost/benefit of the fuel savings doesn’t make sense anymore when all the major truck manufacturers make a gas that can handle service duty.
In addition- this is the one that really got me- a few years ago, if you walked up to a Ford dealership- there wasn’t a single 3/4 ton gas truck. Now, half of them are. There’s a reason for that.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 4:32 am
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:43 am to teambooyah
If budget is a concern, you might want to wait awhile for prices to come back down. Leather is going to push your price a lot higher—decide how big of a deal this is for you. Stick with gas.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:43 am to teambooyah
Get ready for more expensive oil changes and pray it doesn’t break down out of warranty. Insurance doesn’t pay when you fill up at the pump and there is water in the fuel either. You can forget about whipping that thing in a small parking spot too. Make sure to get the California lean, it’s in style now.
Prayers sent,,,
Prayers sent,,,
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:43 am to teambooyah
I’m about to retire my old 7.3 diesel. I have a 6.2 gas waiting in the wings. If I wasn’t paying a few car notes already, I’d look at a new 7.3 gas.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 6:05 am to teambooyah
I found a used 2008 Duramax a few years back that had all I was looking for. It's a LMM and doesn't require DEF. It goes through a 'regen' once a tank full to burn off the particulate in the converter, but that's about all it does EPA wise. I pull a tractor around and a good size ski boat and pontoon boat and I had just had to replace the tranny in my old truck when I bought this one. The Allison transmission was what hooked me.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 6:31 am to sparkinator
Still running my old Dodge 2004, 5.9L Cummins. 250K miles and the only problem with the engine was a water pump that I had changed. Never been in the shop. Still runs like the day I bought it.
The new diesel engines are sweet, but way to much BS added on them.
The new diesel engines are sweet, but way to much BS added on them.

Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:11 am to teambooyah
I just bought my 5th f250. I had over 300k miles on each before I got a new one.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:17 am to OldHickory
When exactly are prices going to come back down?
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:18 am to teambooyah
Make sure you drive like a complete a-hole after you get it. It’s the only way the other diesel baws will accept you
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:19 am to teambooyah
Everything maintenance and repair is a lot more expensive with the diesel.
You can get a 6 liter gas engine that will probably do everything you need
You can get a 6 liter gas engine that will probably do everything you need
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:30 am to teambooyah
The gas 3/4 ton Chevy’s don’t tow as much as the big diesel, but they are just as reliable and cheaper to maintain.
They will tow more than the half ton trucks though. Try it out. The new ones have a 6.6L gas V8 that’s fairly simple in design. Plenty of output for towing.
They will tow more than the half ton trucks though. Try it out. The new ones have a 6.6L gas V8 that’s fairly simple in design. Plenty of output for towing.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:35 am to teambooyah
Have a ram 2500 and i freaking love that truck.
Have 3 kids and i ride comfortable around in it. Plenty of room.
If you are worried about fuel mpg with diesels, 2 options.
1: don’t get one
2: delete it but do know, that it voids your warranty. However, deleted you will get an added 10 mpg and your truck won’t drink DEF as quickly
Have 3 kids and i ride comfortable around in it. Plenty of room.
If you are worried about fuel mpg with diesels, 2 options.
1: don’t get one
2: delete it but do know, that it voids your warranty. However, deleted you will get an added 10 mpg and your truck won’t drink DEF as quickly
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:37 am to teambooyah
Gas is fine, especially if you are not hauling daily. The DEF is a pain in the azz. Loved the way my diesel 3/4 GMC ran, with no gauge, it seemed as when hauled a load of cows on a long trip was when the sensor came on. When I bought a new truck I went back to gas. Next tractor I buy will be used pre emission model.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:39 am to subMOA
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few years ago, if you walked up to a Ford dealership- there wasn’t a single 3/4 ton gas truck. Now, half of them are.
Putting maintenance aside as all heavy diesels are similar in that respect.....
The repair bills on the Powerstroke Ford are catastrophically high. And for about 7-8 model years, nearly all Ford diesels were complete garbage.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 7:40 am
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:42 am to teambooyah
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:49 am to teambooyah
What are you hauling that you are limited with a 1/2 ton? Most can haul 10,000-12,000lbs these days.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:03 am to teambooyah
Big thing is what are you pulling and where are you pulling it?
My f150 with a v8 can pull small excavators around with no problem but doesn’t deal with hills well. I had an 06 2500 with the 6.0 gas burner that was a monster snd could tank around 14000 pounds up and down hills with no problem. A diesel is an upgrade but not as big a gap anymore snd the fuel cost offset is hard to overcome unless you absolutely have to have a diesel motor.
My f150 with a v8 can pull small excavators around with no problem but doesn’t deal with hills well. I had an 06 2500 with the 6.0 gas burner that was a monster snd could tank around 14000 pounds up and down hills with no problem. A diesel is an upgrade but not as big a gap anymore snd the fuel cost offset is hard to overcome unless you absolutely have to have a diesel motor.
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