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Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:59 am to usc6158
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Chip Kelly
It’s mystifying how bad he’s been at UCLA compared to the success he had at Oregon. He went 46-7 at Oregon and is now 8-19 at UCLA. That’s almost a 60% decrease in winning percentage. It’s very comparable to the drop off Les Miles has at Kansas compared to LSU except the gap between UCLA and Oregon as football programs is way smaller than the gap between Kansas and LSU. How is it possible to go from being that good to that bad?
Posted on 11/28/20 at 6:35 am to DVontel
Tom Herman.
While Harbaugh has been a disappointment compared to where I thought he'd have Michigan by now, he's fielded some competitive teams that were just one or two games away from a College Football Playoff appearance. What has Tom Herman done? Absolutely nothing. He coaches at a school with the highest of expectations. He also coaches at a school that is considered to be THE school in a state that is just OVERFLOWING with top tier talent. They have the history, they have the tradition, but above all they have the facilities and the money. There is absolutely no excuse for a coach to not win 9 or 10 games a year on the reg in Austin.
While Harbaugh has been a disappointment compared to where I thought he'd have Michigan by now, he's fielded some competitive teams that were just one or two games away from a College Football Playoff appearance. What has Tom Herman done? Absolutely nothing. He coaches at a school with the highest of expectations. He also coaches at a school that is considered to be THE school in a state that is just OVERFLOWING with top tier talent. They have the history, they have the tradition, but above all they have the facilities and the money. There is absolutely no excuse for a coach to not win 9 or 10 games a year on the reg in Austin.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:00 am to tzimme4
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Willie Taggart
I know he didn't have the expectations the other two had but Holy shite he was a cluster frick from the start. The fsu program was already hurt from that last year with jimbo but Willie set them back YEARS.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:08 am to paladine36
I understood why Herman was brought on. Very good OC at OSU. Did a great job at Houston and has texas ties but he has been very underwhelming. Poor coaching job. Harbaugh at least has gotten his team close to the playoff and also a few ny6 bowls
Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:24 am to MikeD
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Tom Herman ran up the score on non- P5 schools
He beat the 2016 Heisman winner 3 weeks before the ceremony and beat the 2017 Heisman winner earlier that season. Also won his NY6 bowl. Think he won 6 games against ranked teams.
He accomplished some things but those accomplishments do not prepare you for the Texas job. A middling job like Texas Tech would have been appropriate.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:49 am to DVontel
My wish is that Jimbo will join the Herman & Harbaugh group.
Scott Frost and Mike Norvell are looking like flavor of the month head coaching choices that turned out bad, maybe.
Hugh Freeze and Matt Campbell are next in line to see if in fact they're the real deal.
PJ Fleck has 1 good year out of 3 at Minnesota. Not sure if he's still the next best thing.
Greg Schiano is someone that should be highly sought after in my opinion.
Scott Frost and Mike Norvell are looking like flavor of the month head coaching choices that turned out bad, maybe.
Hugh Freeze and Matt Campbell are next in line to see if in fact they're the real deal.
PJ Fleck has 1 good year out of 3 at Minnesota. Not sure if he's still the next best thing.
Greg Schiano is someone that should be highly sought after in my opinion.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 9:00 am to Skillet
My two cents....Michigan is what we always crap on ND for...living off tradition, but at least ND has good teams here and there.
Harbaugh has done where I expected, even at SF and Stanford, he would still have a WTF loss here and there...well that continues..
I still think he can be successful in the NFL.
As for Herman...just not a fit there. Who knows what his future holds.
As a VT fan, I was totally wrong about Fuente. He seemed like a good to great fit for VT, but he really has been stubborn and alienated lots of the schools in the region. Our recruiting is garbage, and he has now lost to ODU, Liberty, UVA, etc....
Last year there was hope when Kill was in and making suggestions, but he refused to listen on moving on from the OC and what not.
I think Fuente will rebound and do well somewhere closer to home (Oklahoma), but if the money is there, he is gone from VT
Harbaugh has done where I expected, even at SF and Stanford, he would still have a WTF loss here and there...well that continues..
I still think he can be successful in the NFL.
As for Herman...just not a fit there. Who knows what his future holds.
As a VT fan, I was totally wrong about Fuente. He seemed like a good to great fit for VT, but he really has been stubborn and alienated lots of the schools in the region. Our recruiting is garbage, and he has now lost to ODU, Liberty, UVA, etc....
Last year there was hope when Kill was in and making suggestions, but he refused to listen on moving on from the OC and what not.
I think Fuente will rebound and do well somewhere closer to home (Oklahoma), but if the money is there, he is gone from VT
Posted on 11/28/20 at 9:59 am to tccdc
I thought Fuente would do well there...very disappointing TBH. The alienating of the regional schools doesn't help at all.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:01 am to tccdc
VT seems like they need someone with close ties to the Tidewater region
Posted on 11/28/20 at 10:04 am to DVontel
Idk Michigan is bad but they really sucked befor harbaugh hot there.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 1:04 pm to DVontel
Herman, I expected much better from him at Texas.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 1:08 pm to DVontel
Has to be Herman. Texas should be in the top 10 perennially with 10 wins being the floor.
Michigan should be a 8-10 win team every year and in the top 25, but outside of the top 10 discussion. They are a B+ program with delusions of being an A+ program like Alabama and Ohio State. They are right where they are suppose to be, with this season being an aberration.
Michigan should be a 8-10 win team every year and in the top 25, but outside of the top 10 discussion. They are a B+ program with delusions of being an A+ program like Alabama and Ohio State. They are right where they are suppose to be, with this season being an aberration.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 1:53 pm to DVontel
Herman
Mensa expects more
Mensa expects more
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:36 pm to Paul Allen
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Mike Belotti, Jeff Tedford
You mean the guy who turned Oregon from an after thought and brought it to heights they had never seen before? The same guy that brought in chip Kelly as oc and as his replacement and as AD guided them to even greater heights? Same Mike Belotti that essentially rode off into the sunset as the coach with the most wins at Oregon?
Or the Jeff Tedford that also helped belotti t Oregon? The same Jeff Telford that led Cal to the best tenure they had in decades? Same tedford that was twice Pac10 coach of the year, has Cal record for most wins, bowl wins and pretty much every other record? Sure he stayed too long but was a hell of a coach. Same twdford that after he left cal went 10-4 then 12-2 at Fresno?
So wtf is a successful coach? Saban and urban? Yall are fricking ridiculous on what yall consider successful. Some programs are not capable of winning an NC. If two coaches that have the most wins in their schools history and lasted over a decade aren't considered successful than only Saban and urban qualify.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:45 pm to Skillet
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Scott Frost and Mike Norvell are looking like flavor of the month head coaching choices that turned out bad, maybe
Scott frost yes, but this is Norvell first year and it's a covid year. Another dumbass opinion.
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Hugh Freeze and Matt Campbell are next in line to see if in fact they're the real deal.
You mean the hugh freeze that was very successful at ole miss and has proven he can win in the P5?
Or the matt Campbell that has slowly built ISU into a contender? You know in a P5 conference? Pretty much proves he knows wtf he is doing and can win in the p5 doesn't it?
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PJ Fleck has 1 good year out of 3 at Minnesota. Not sure if he's still the next best thing.
You mean the pj fleck that turned around western Michigan and has done the same an Minnesota? The pj fleck that went 5-7, 7-6, 11-2 for their beat record since 1904, that pj fleck? Yea he fricking sucks as a coach, if he only he knew how to build a program.
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Greg Schiano is someone that should be highly sought after in my opinion.
This we can agree on. But what pj and Matt Campbell have done is essentially the same thing as Schiano did, just in different ways.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:49 pm to Bench McElroy
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How is it possible to go from being that good to that bad?
He's not paying $25,000 for scouting recruitment searches for guys like Seastrunk.
See Will Lyles
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:17 pm to partywiththelombardi
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Harbaugh. Won big in the PAC, translated CFB success to the NFL...and for whatever reason can not seem to get Michigan to be a legitimate threat to win the Big.
This. With their resources and massive alumni base, there is no reason for them to not be able to compete with Ohio State. Harbaugh's previous track record indicated that he would be able to bring Michigan back among the really good teams in college football. His inability to develop a QB there has been one of the most shocking developments in all of college football over the last 5 years.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:18 pm to Bench McElroy
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How is it possible to go from being that good to that bad?
His tempo isn't sneaking up on anyone anymore.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:20 pm to tccdc
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As a VT fan, I was totally wrong about Fuente. He seemed like a good to great fit for VT, but he really has been stubborn and alienated lots of the schools in the region. Our recruiting is garbage, and he has now lost to ODU, Liberty, UVA, etc....
Jerod Evans stupidly leaving early for the draft really hurt Fuente in his early years there. His inability to recruit Hampton Roads is going to end up being his undoing.
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