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USA Today new story on mishandling of misconduct complaints against athletes
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:23 am
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:23 am
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Guice and (Drake) Davis included, at least nine LSU football players have been reported to police for sexual misconduct and dating violence since coach Ed Orgeron took over the team four years ago, records show.
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LSU has acknowledged formally disciplining two of the nine athletes: Davis and Peter Parrish, a quarterback accused of raping a woman in a car outside a bar earlier this year. LSU suspended Parrish for one year. The university expelled Davis, but not until July 2019 – four months after his criminal conviction, and 10 months after he’d already left the school.
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Guice’s attorney has said he was never disciplined, and LSU attorney Johanna Posada confirmed in response to a public records request that four other athletes were not disciplined, either. They include running back Tae Provens, linebacker Jacob Phillips, tight end Zach Sheffer, all accused of rape; and safety Grant Delpit, who was accused of recording a woman during sex without her knowledge and sharing the video with others. Provens was arrested; his case remains open, the district attorney's office said. The others have not been criminally charged. The school would not confirm or deny if it disciplined two other players accused of dating violence – defensive linemen Davon Godchaux and Ray Parker – citing privacy interests. Both were arrested. Godchaux was not charged in court; Parker’s case is pending, the DA's office said.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:27 am to MrWiseGuy
"dating violence"
For frick's sake
For frick's sake
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:33 am to MrWiseGuy
Can we get an update on these allegations of rape charges for Jacob Philips and wtf is “dating violence”.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:57 am to MrWiseGuy
This feels like a regurgitated article about Guice which has been covered at length.
Also Davis was suspended before he was expelled and it feels disingenuous to leave that out.
Davis, Parrish, Provens, Parker and Schaffer all left the team or were kicked off.
I feel like throwing out accusation against Phillips and Delpit with 0 follow up is fricking irresponsible at best.
Also leaving out facts like Davis being suspended before he was expelled and Phillips and Godchaux both having their charges almost immediately dropped is bullshite.
Also Davis was suspended before he was expelled and it feels disingenuous to leave that out.
Davis, Parrish, Provens, Parker and Schaffer all left the team or were kicked off.
I feel like throwing out accusation against Phillips and Delpit with 0 follow up is fricking irresponsible at best.
Also leaving out facts like Davis being suspended before he was expelled and Phillips and Godchaux both having their charges almost immediately dropped is bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 7:25 am
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:58 am to MrWiseGuy
Prepare for cancel culture...
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:06 am to MrWiseGuy
What a shitty thing to wake up and read.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:35 am to MrWiseGuy
This article is complete trash. LSU football doesn't prosecute players for rape. That's the responsibility of the DA.
The majority of players mentioned were booted from the team.
Philips was cleared of any wrongdoing. I'd sue the shite out of USA Today if I was him.
The majority of players mentioned were booted from the team.
Philips was cleared of any wrongdoing. I'd sue the shite out of USA Today if I was him.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:42 am to MrWiseGuy
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The university expelled Davis, but not until July 2019 – four months after his criminal conviction, and 10 months after he’d already left the school.
Is that supposed to be damning or something?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:09 am to MrWiseGuy
Pelini has also come forward with allegations that Ed has allowed him to be raped by multiple OCs and done nothing
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:42 am to MrWiseGuy
So innocent until proven guilty is no longer a thing I guess?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:44 am to MrWiseGuy
Hold that Tiger didn’t mean by the neck.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:47 am to MrWiseGuy
Does "kicked off the team" not count as discipline?
Because except for a few, all those players were kicked off the team.
Because except for a few, all those players were kicked off the team.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:24 am to MrWiseGuy
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Brennan drank “way too much,” she told USA TODAY[/b]. At the end of the night, Dudley dropped her off at her apartment, which was in the same complex where Guice lived. “That’s kind of all I remember,” she said.
The next day, Brennan said, she woke up naked and alone in her bed. Later that morning, she got a text from Guice, asking if she had his wallet
So she didn't call or go to the BRPD and say she was raped?
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This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:26 am to MrWiseGuy
Now, we all know that Guice is a bad person who never has been really held accountable, until now. He was allowed to just do whatever he wanted, and people covered for him.
There is a stereotype that famous athletes are above the law, and Guice just furthers that stereotype.
One thing about this article that bothers me, if true, is the withholding of records from the women, to the extent that it is their records. I think these women do deserve to see what is in the files about them.
Beyond that, this article brings up a lot of issues for me that I have with the deal with sexual assault/misconduct as a whole. And that is... we have a criminal justice system. If a woman is raped or attacked, she needs to report it to the police and let the court system do their job. If it's found that the DA is playing favors, that needs to be dealt with.
To expect LSU admin (not LSU PD) to deal with these issues is beyond stupid. They don't have the capabilities to do so.
If these women don't want to press charges or cooperate with the police... I don't know what else to do. I know expecting a player to be punished by a university for a crime that isn't being punished in the criminal justice system, is not something I understand.
I also admit I don't understand all the Title IX issues here. Again, why aren't the police dealing with this?
There is a stereotype that famous athletes are above the law, and Guice just furthers that stereotype.
One thing about this article that bothers me, if true, is the withholding of records from the women, to the extent that it is their records. I think these women do deserve to see what is in the files about them.
Beyond that, this article brings up a lot of issues for me that I have with the deal with sexual assault/misconduct as a whole. And that is... we have a criminal justice system. If a woman is raped or attacked, she needs to report it to the police and let the court system do their job. If it's found that the DA is playing favors, that needs to be dealt with.
To expect LSU admin (not LSU PD) to deal with these issues is beyond stupid. They don't have the capabilities to do so.
If these women don't want to press charges or cooperate with the police... I don't know what else to do. I know expecting a player to be punished by a university for a crime that isn't being punished in the criminal justice system, is not something I understand.
I also admit I don't understand all the Title IX issues here. Again, why aren't the police dealing with this?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:42 am to MrWiseGuy
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This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 9:57 am
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:14 am to MrWiseGuy
we are absolutely screwed.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:21 am to MrWiseGuy
I wonder if the team will have a march to stand against these players that did these acts....
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:26 am to MrWiseGuy
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school would not confirm or deny if it disciplined two other players accused of dating violence – defensive linemen Davon Godchaux and Ray Parker – citing privacy interests. Both were arrested. Godchaux was not charged in court; Parker’s case is pending, the DA's office said
Frankly I don’t care what happens to O/the previous players with this if they are guilty they should deal with the consequences.
However.
This is a COMPLETE piece of shite move to pull on davon godchaux and the USA Today should be embarrassed to publish this.
Godchaux had his charges dropped and they still want to drag his name through the mud? Journalism is a lost profession.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:47 am to MrWiseGuy
Sounds like guys that were convicted got punished. You can’t punish people for every allegation.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:53 am to MrWiseGuy
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That summer, a female student told two senior athletics administrators that Guice took a partially nude photograph of her without her permission, and then shared it with a team equipment manager and possibly others.
Is this the only new accusation about Guice?
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