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re: Could New Orleans ever host the Olympics?
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:43 pm to blueboy
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:43 pm to blueboy
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I disagree. Remember, not everything has to be confined to the city limits of the host city. Some of the Beijing venues are many miles away from the city.
Exactly. The Salt Lake Winter Games had a lot of the competition in Park City, which is 37 miles away from the airport.
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Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:45 pm to H-Town Tiger
New Orleans' shot at hosting an Olympics has already come and gone.
That city's golden age ended decades ago.
The Olympics would also view the Atlanta games as having been too recent to award another Olympiad to the South.
New Orleans' problem isn't really the infrastructure/transportation/safety, etc... all of that can be fixed. The city's biggest problem is finding leaders to make those improvements. I have less faith in the leadership of New Orleans than I do in its existing, outdated and damaged infrastructure.
That city's golden age ended decades ago.
The Olympics would also view the Atlanta games as having been too recent to award another Olympiad to the South.
New Orleans' problem isn't really the infrastructure/transportation/safety, etc... all of that can be fixed. The city's biggest problem is finding leaders to make those improvements. I have less faith in the leadership of New Orleans than I do in its existing, outdated and damaged infrastructure.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:48 pm to SpqrTiger
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It's certainly logistically possible, and I'd love to see it one day, but the leadership in New Orleans is just way too incompetent and corrupt to handle it.
Can't get much truer than that.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 4:48 pm to Proejo
back to birmingham during the games in atlanta a soccer between the US and Argentina.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 5:15 pm to itawambadog
It would have to grow substantially as well
Posted on 8/9/08 at 6:15 pm to itawambadog
Posted on 8/9/08 at 6:22 pm to killbill
New Orleans would have a better chance then a lot are laughing about, in this thread. It is already an extremely popular sporting event destination (super bowl, college bowl games, final 4s). Very popular tourism. The city being redone for the Olympics could be seen as a big positive and could be a way to get the city back where it was before the Hurricane. I agree that the leadership in the city is the big problem and would never be able to handle the responsibility that came along with it. I don't know if the U.S. government could just take over all of that. 
Posted on 8/9/08 at 7:03 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
Could you imagine the scandels Sugar Ray Nagin could cause with the billions of dollars that precede an Olympics? The Chocolate City would be wrapped in gold foil.
Superdome too small - therefore another stadium would be needed. Cost would be in the hundreds of millions.
No swimming venue - cost 100's of millions
No infrastructure to handle something that big - cost 100's of millions
Where would you put the Olympic Village? No room unless you tear something down. In NOLA you can't even tear down dilapedated federally run slums without a protest.
We're talking billions and billions of dollars to get the city up to par then you have to afford hosting the event itself.
Leadership - non existant locally. Like said in an earlier post they cannot even get the street lights back on from Hurricane Katrina (3 years ago I might add).
Last, I don't think the Oympic Committe would put the Olympics in a place that's prone to a direct hit by a Hurricane. August is close enough to prime Hurricane season.
In short Snowballs chance in Hell!
Superdome too small - therefore another stadium would be needed. Cost would be in the hundreds of millions.
No swimming venue - cost 100's of millions
No infrastructure to handle something that big - cost 100's of millions
Where would you put the Olympic Village? No room unless you tear something down. In NOLA you can't even tear down dilapedated federally run slums without a protest.
We're talking billions and billions of dollars to get the city up to par then you have to afford hosting the event itself.
Leadership - non existant locally. Like said in an earlier post they cannot even get the street lights back on from Hurricane Katrina (3 years ago I might add).
Last, I don't think the Oympic Committe would put the Olympics in a place that's prone to a direct hit by a Hurricane. August is close enough to prime Hurricane season.
In short Snowballs chance in Hell!
This post was edited on 8/9/08 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 8/9/08 at 7:04 pm to ELLSSUU
think about the great opening we could have.
also the tigerbaiting of the parade of nations would be glorious.
also the tigerbaiting of the parade of nations would be glorious.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 7:14 pm to heartbreakTiger
The Mayor of B-Ham is dreaming.
Chicago and New York City have been bidding for years to even get on the final list to even be considered for the games.
If there is ever going to be summer games in the US, it will be either in New York City/Chicago....and it may not happen anytime soon.
Chicago and New York City have been bidding for years to even get on the final list to even be considered for the games.
If there is ever going to be summer games in the US, it will be either in New York City/Chicago....and it may not happen anytime soon.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 7:17 pm to itawambadog
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well i heard on fienbaum one time that the mayor or birmingham wanted to place a bid for a summer games.
the special olympics maybe
Posted on 8/9/08 at 7:18 pm to WildcatMike
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If there is ever going to be summer games in the US, it will be either in New York City/Chicago....and it may not happen anytime soon
We are due to get another one soon, IMO. Chicago is where I think it will be.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 7:26 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
2016 possibility for Chicago.
LINK
The last time the IOC was looking for a Summer Olympics host, New York City appeared to be a front-runner for 2012. Until, that is, financing for a new stadium in Manhattan fell apart just weeks before the final vote. New York wound up with only 16 of 60 votes needed, and London landed those Olympics.
That led the USOC to revamp its domestic selection process. Led by Ueberroth, the USOC has insisted that financing be in place and transparent and that governments be willing to provide guarantees for the bids if private money doesn't cover all costs.
Both the city of Chicago and the state of California complied.
Ryan also said Saturday that an insurance company is pledging to provide a $500 million policy to cover revenue shortfalls and cost overruns, though not related to completion of venues.
"The legacy projects, coupled with the guarantees they have offered, I believe gave our board a level of assurance that might have been the differentiation between the cities," Ctvrtlik said.
The USOC's process for 2016 began a year ago, with Houston, Philadelphia and San Francisco also in the running. Houston and Philadelphia were eliminated by the USOC last July, and San Francisco dropped out in November.
LINK
The last time the IOC was looking for a Summer Olympics host, New York City appeared to be a front-runner for 2012. Until, that is, financing for a new stadium in Manhattan fell apart just weeks before the final vote. New York wound up with only 16 of 60 votes needed, and London landed those Olympics.
That led the USOC to revamp its domestic selection process. Led by Ueberroth, the USOC has insisted that financing be in place and transparent and that governments be willing to provide guarantees for the bids if private money doesn't cover all costs.
Both the city of Chicago and the state of California complied.
Ryan also said Saturday that an insurance company is pledging to provide a $500 million policy to cover revenue shortfalls and cost overruns, though not related to completion of venues.
"The legacy projects, coupled with the guarantees they have offered, I believe gave our board a level of assurance that might have been the differentiation between the cities," Ctvrtlik said.
The USOC's process for 2016 began a year ago, with Houston, Philadelphia and San Francisco also in the running. Houston and Philadelphia were eliminated by the USOC last July, and San Francisco dropped out in November.
This post was edited on 8/9/08 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 8/9/08 at 8:06 pm to footballislife
If fishing was added as a sport then maybe
Posted on 8/10/08 at 1:27 am to WarmBubble
It's hard to believe St. Louis has hosted an Olympics while NYC, Boston, NOLA, etc hasn't.
Also to the people that say NOLA won't get it becuase of hurricanes. what would happen if Los Angeles gets hit by a major earthquake, or Chicago getting hit by a F5 tornado during an Olympics? Houston is in hurricane territory too.
Also to the people that say NOLA won't get it becuase of hurricanes. what would happen if Los Angeles gets hit by a major earthquake, or Chicago getting hit by a F5 tornado during an Olympics? Houston is in hurricane territory too.
Posted on 8/10/08 at 1:55 am to heartbreakTiger
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also the tigerbaiting of the parade of nations would be glorious.
Posted on 8/10/08 at 2:57 am to killbill
Even if we could pull it off, I would think that the Olympics being during hurricane season would mean we'd never even be considered.
Posted on 8/10/08 at 4:40 am to shel311
Why does everyone keep bringing up Nagin? Any Olympics would be years after he was no longer mayor. Also its not like the mayor plans anything, after the bidding they aren't really involved anymore. But it would never happen anyway because NO is too small to even be considered and there would be entirely too much to build.
Posted on 8/10/08 at 7:55 am to saintsfan22
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Why does everyone keep bringing up Nagin? Any Olympics would be years after he was no longer mayor.
Using Sugar in name only BUT face it the next guy will be incompetent and crooked just like he is. After all it's the NOLA's destiny to keep electing the worst officials possible; see Marc Morial, Dutch Morial, William Jefferson, Shepherd etc etc etc etc etc.
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But it would never happen anyway because NO is too small to even be considered and there would be entirely too much to build.
Geographically and economically NOLA is just to small a player to step up with the bigboys. Won't happen.
This post was edited on 8/10/08 at 7:57 am
Posted on 8/10/08 at 8:27 am to ELLSSUU
As far as Southern cities go, Atlanta is pretty much the most "cosmopolitan" city. It is also geographically huge, with the basics of an infrastructure to support something like the Olympics (and NO, I do not count Houston, Dallas, or Miami as "southern" cities--another topic for another thread on another board).
Atlanta, as we all know, had its chance 12 years ago and it was in all estimation a huge flop. It was the first time that the head of the International Olympic Committee declared the Games "most exceptional," and not "the best ever."
All that being said, what dooms U.S. cities in general is the fact that it is primarily up to the cities and states themselves to secure funding and arrange the logistics for any Olympics they may want to host. I can't think of any other country that views the Olympics in such a way. I would tend to think that the federal government views their role in a U.S. Olympics as a nuisance (security, funding, etc.). Every other country views the Olympics as a matter of national pride and an international showcase, with the full support of the national government.
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New Orleans hosting the Olympics:
I could see the opening ceremonies now: During the Parade of Nations, the N.O. and La. faithful holding up signs that read: "Show your tits!" The highlight will be when the head of the IOC gets mugged after refusing to pay some guy who told him "where he got his shoes."
Atlanta, as we all know, had its chance 12 years ago and it was in all estimation a huge flop. It was the first time that the head of the International Olympic Committee declared the Games "most exceptional," and not "the best ever."
All that being said, what dooms U.S. cities in general is the fact that it is primarily up to the cities and states themselves to secure funding and arrange the logistics for any Olympics they may want to host. I can't think of any other country that views the Olympics in such a way. I would tend to think that the federal government views their role in a U.S. Olympics as a nuisance (security, funding, etc.). Every other country views the Olympics as a matter of national pride and an international showcase, with the full support of the national government.
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New Orleans hosting the Olympics:
I could see the opening ceremonies now: During the Parade of Nations, the N.O. and La. faithful holding up signs that read: "Show your tits!" The highlight will be when the head of the IOC gets mugged after refusing to pay some guy who told him "where he got his shoes."
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