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re: I don't get Wisconsin

Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:39 am to
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:39 am to
It’s because confirmation bias has led you to believe that gun toting red-blooded outdoor Americans are all right wing extremists.

That’s so far from the truth. If all you do is hang around people like you, this will blow your mind... there is no conspiracy and the radical left (who suck by the way) is a very small percentage of the population.
Posted by NakaTrash
Texas Hill Country
Member since Dec 2013
6139 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:41 am to
quote:

It’s the cities vs the country. The battleground is the burbs.


This is absolutely correct in central Texas. Farms and ranches look like MAGA rallies. Towns like Lockhart (14k) are close to 50/50 yard signs (more Biden, but factoring some shy Trump folks), and of course we know about cities like Austin.
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2047 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:42 am to
Like most states, WI consists of a few blue islands among seas of red.

WI has a very large and interconnected public university system. UW-Madison and UW-Milwaukee are beacons of progressive thought, but the smaller state schools stake out their territories too. La Crosse, Eau Claire, Green Bay, and others. Remember those massive protests in 2010 when Walker was pushing Act 10 to bust up the unions? That shite was happening on every campus. It ain't hard to find 100,000 liberals around Madison, or 10,000 liberals in the other college towns. These protests created the illusion that the citizens opposed the bill in substantially greater numbers than they actually did.

The rest of the state is deep red. They like their football, their beer, their tailgates. They're blue collar and redneck as hell. The Tavern League holds a lot of political sway. Fishing and hunting are huge. (Russ Feingold, one of the most liberal Senators we ever had, was actually a decent ally for gun rights, strictly because of the hunting culture up there.)

Wisconsin is almost a perfect 50/50 split. It's a state where one Senator came from the Tea Party and another is openly gay. A state that can break for Obama twice and then go to Trump. A state that elected Scott Walker, recalled him, elected him again, and then elected Tony Evers.

Source: born in WI, lived there for 25 years.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18343 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:44 am to
One of these days folks like you will realize why city independence is a good idea. Let me them run their own policies and let DC fall into the abyss of irrelevance.
Posted by ShakeandBake
Member since Aug 2019
1164 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:50 am to
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So when they ruin Georgia, Texas and North Carolina, where do they move?



Ideally, a small island in the middle of the ocean.

I would also take Liberia.
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
10224 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:56 am to
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This is the obvious “hidden” trump vote


The hidden Trump vote is also registered dems voting for him.
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:59 am to
Perfect synopsis - very similar to Michigan (lived there 25 years).

Most democrats are Feingold-like and no one is going to screw with our guns. Even the liberals hoard bullets and ARs up here.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45245 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:59 am to
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women should have the right to choose


They do have the right to choose. Make sure the man wears a damn condom. Abortion to avoid personal responsibility is fricking disgraceful and that's why 99.99% of abortions happen.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1625 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:02 am to
My wife has two brothers and one sister that lives in Milwaukee with their families. I know one brother is for any Democrat and the other one is for any Republican. I don't know about her sister. Their families follow whomever there parents want.

Of course her brother that is Democrat sends my wife a lot of hateful crap. I keep telling her to unfriend his arse, but she won't do it.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 10:05 am
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2111 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:02 am to
Nailed it

Its purple. A true swing state.

Urban and rural division. Progs in Dane County (madison) and blacks in Milwaukee county. Conservatives mostly lead everywhere else.

Trump is hitting it hard.

Ivanka 20 miles from me tomorrow and Trump doing another rally in Green Bay.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18343 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:06 am to
Raped victims should definitely make sure their rapists wear protection.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89775 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:12 am to
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Madison


Under Donna Shalala, UW-Madison is where "Political Correctness" (the precursor to #Woke culture) was literally born.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39689 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:15 am to
People keep getting caught up in traditional trends and metrics in these swing states and they are forgetting the peculiar dynamics of 2016.

People were so sick of the status quo that card carrying democrats went to the polls and elected a fricking game show host to be president. In response, the dems gave us the swampiest hissy fit in the history of politics, confirming every fear and suspicion 16 Trump voters had. Now, suddenly these peple are going to go back to that? No way.

Think about it. It makes zero sense. Unless there is an epic wave of new dem voters in this election, Biden's goose is cooked.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19363 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:16 am to
It's a microcosm of the country. A couple pockets of elites and densely populated urban areas (Madison/Milwaukee) control the vast majority (land wise, not pupulation) with their vote. Same in Michigan, PA, and Ohio.
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2047 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:16 am to
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Perfect synopsis - very similar to Michigan (lived there 25 years).


Cheers. Yooper or troll?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15519 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:18 am to
I have a good friend whom I worked with for years who still has a home near Milwaukee. His two brothers up there vote R. His sisters and sisters in law vote hard left. For some reason under 50 women don't like republicans.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45245 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:21 am to
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Raped victims should definitely make sure their rapists wear protection


Rape victims fall into that .01% that I was talking about. That's different. I said 99.99% of abortions are done to avoid personal responsibility.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15547 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:23 am to
Agreed.

Wisconsin is basically the Louisiana of the Midwest.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3973 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:30 am to
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Trump won Wiscy in 2016


This is what everybody is ignoring.

The best predictor of how an incumbent President will perform in a state in his re-election bid is to actually look at how that candidate did in that state the first time.

We have plenty of data to verify this. On average incumbents win something like 95% of the states they won the first time and increase their vote share by around 3%. I'm spitballing the numbers there, but we simply DO NOT see what the media and their "polls" are telling us is going to happen.

The only notable exception was the South turning their back on Jimmy Carter in 1980 and we all know the ideological shift that prompted that. The Rust Belt middle class didn't suddenly wake up these past two years and realize they actually stand with BLM, Green New Deal, moar ME wars and socialist fiscal policies. Their "awakening" happened in 2016 and it will continue.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45947 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:47 am to
It's Boomers' fault for waiting until later in life to have kids who are now coddled and pampered and and who are easily distracted and swayed by the lies from Dems.

"Your parents were racists! (bullshite. the people before us put the policies in place. We tore them down) Don't be like your parents!"

Raise your kids better and that's not an issue. My daughter has a Trump yard sign up in her room in her sorority house at OU and a roommate that is a fervent Trump campaigner. They know bullshite and don't fall for that siren song from the campus socialists.

She wore a Trump MAGA sweatshirt to a class on campus and the professor asked if that was meant to be a joke in a very condescending way. She replied, "No more of a joke than attending this class. Is this class a joke?"

Proud of my girl.
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