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re: RPO rate by QB
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:02 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:02 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Yes 6/21 of his passes are RPOs, but there is another thread that putS the total RPOs pretty high.
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:09 am to P bean
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A 9 route is not a slow developing route its straight upfield, and the short out route from the slot is def is a quick out, and its opened up by the 9 route. Literally a textbook route combination on an RPO.
Man, you are so wrong it's scary.
A 9 route is NOT an easy throw. Yes, a 9 and quick out are used in RPOs, but rarely without a slant coming behind them from a trips formation. They are CLEARING routes in a RPO concept. Every now and then, if you get the right match up with a single high safety, you'll throw to the 9. If the QB gets flushed, the out is the outlet pass to avoid a negative play.
What you're not grasping is that there WAS NO PASS OPTION FOR THE PLAY.
1. The runs were inside or followed the back
2. No zone blocking, straight run blocking the whole way
3. No slants
4. Finely doesn't even LOOK at the backside end. In fact, the O-Line allows him to get up field.
All of this adds up to one conclusion, they were designed QB runs the whole way.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:21 am
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:37 am to ibleedprplngld
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What you're not grasping is that there WAS NO PASS OPTION FOR THE PLAY.
Your an idiot. You analysis is NOT needed. There is no argument. Secstatcat.com says your wrong and that those qb run plays we are arguing about are qb run rpo’s. So stfu lol!
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Cry all you want, the playcalls were what I said they were LOL. Your analysis is stupid and ignorant.
Go look for yourself dude.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:42 am to CypressTrout10
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It's almost like if you hand the ball off with one less person in the box you will run for more yards. Why is Brennan's % so low?
This has been my biggest confusion of the play calling in games 1-3. Why such limited RPO with Brennan? Burrow & Co. murdered everyone with it last year. Do they not trust Myles to make these reads/throws?
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:44 am to okietiger
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Burrow & Co. murdered everyone with it last year. Do they not trust Myles to make these reads/throws?
Brennan has statistically ran the RPO more than Burrow last year.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:04 am to ibleedprplngld
I saw this thread had 8 pages. Read the 1st page, and it was the usual customers discussing nothing that actually relates to the what and why.
I skipped to the last page and read your post. Good to see somebody saving a lot of my time.
I skipped to the last page and read your post. Good to see somebody saving a lot of my time.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:05 am to P bean
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Secstatcat.com
Again, those sites use an algorithm to try and guess the "most likely" play based on formation and some moving parts. It's not like they call up Ensminger and ask what the play call was you tard.
Whether you like it or not, there are people on this board who coach for a living or on a volunteer basis and run these offenses. The fricking website doesn't make you right. It just shows that you have no clue what you're talking about so you lean on a site to come up with your analysis rather than actually understanding the offense.
GTFO with your stupid shite.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:19 am to CottonWasKing
Yeah, Brennan would run the RPO more than Burrow.
He needs a back as an option to carry the ball. They don't want him taking hits.
It's a simple numbers game, and there is a collection of you guys that refuse to face the fact that Brennan isn't going to run the ball.
LSU doesn't beat AL or CLEM w/o Burrow's feet. Even as accurate of a passer as he is, when he is the running option on RPO or when he decides the D has committed more to coverage and left him uncovered, the defense doesn't have the numbers to stop it.
Tell me this. Who was the running option on Burrow's most famous RPO play, the 20 yard gain to Chase in the 4th vs AL?
This won't work with Brennan. They are not going to respect him as a running option. If he comes back and the staff decides to establish him as a true running threat like they did Finley, we'll see how effective Brennan can be.
Bruised shoulder and hip issue be damned. He's not gonna be able to take the punishment. Burrow wasn't even accurate enough for us to remove him from being a viable running option, so I don't know why some of you think Brennan is going to make last year's offense work without the defense respecting his feet.
He needs a back as an option to carry the ball. They don't want him taking hits.
It's a simple numbers game, and there is a collection of you guys that refuse to face the fact that Brennan isn't going to run the ball.
LSU doesn't beat AL or CLEM w/o Burrow's feet. Even as accurate of a passer as he is, when he is the running option on RPO or when he decides the D has committed more to coverage and left him uncovered, the defense doesn't have the numbers to stop it.
Tell me this. Who was the running option on Burrow's most famous RPO play, the 20 yard gain to Chase in the 4th vs AL?
This won't work with Brennan. They are not going to respect him as a running option. If he comes back and the staff decides to establish him as a true running threat like they did Finley, we'll see how effective Brennan can be.
Bruised shoulder and hip issue be damned. He's not gonna be able to take the punishment. Burrow wasn't even accurate enough for us to remove him from being a viable running option, so I don't know why some of you think Brennan is going to make last year's offense work without the defense respecting his feet.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:28 am to SammyTiger
TJ just has the brains to make the right reads and he can handle the RPO calls, no brainer why he would get a higher percentage.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:29 am to wahoocs
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Bruised shoulder and hip issue be damned.
Where does this come from? He has an oblique injury.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:31 am to P bean
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Your an idiot
This dude is clearly trolling for attention.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:47 am to GeauxHouston
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An RPO can be a read option... teams run it all the time. You run read option off the end, then the qb can either run or pitch it out to a screen on the edge.
Technically a QB can run whenever he wants.
There are types of RPOs that have a bubble screen or tunnel screen aspect instead of a slant.
The main diff is an RPO reads a specific player(s) in coverage. A read option reads someone in the box. Mostly an End but sometimes a DT.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 2:34 pm to sabes que
The RPO percentage is a product of the reads the QB has. The percentage has nothing to do with the offense. The RPO is based on what the QB reads. He does NOT audible a new play if he sees the original play which is normally a called run is blocked. He locates a certain defensive player and this helps him to determine which one of 5 players is likely to be open. Or if a QB or RB run is in order. Normally the initial play call is a run. The offensive line has no problem with any play because it zone blocks. The QB normally sees the Pass receiver that will be open and throws the ball to him in his pattern. The percent the QB runs the ball on a play is based on what the Opposing D allows. If they open it up that’s why the run is generally pretty good.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 4:27 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Also interesting to note that Finley had better and more decisive decision making that helped him succeed.
RPO % by quarterback
TJ Finley: 28.6%
Myles Brennan: 9.2%
Joe Burrow: 8.4%
Not sure the plan was to have this high of a ratio of RPOs with him, maybe so, but logically the success he was having and great and quick decision making probably played a part in us continuing to run it.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 5:15 pm to CottonWasKing
quote:That’s because when they see an RPO they think it’s either a regular hand off or a play action pass, and when they see a read option they think it’s an RPO
I’ve seen it posted over and over that Ensminger wasn’t calling RPO’s like we did last year.
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