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re: RPO rate by QB

Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:39 pm to
I never called that a zone read. It’s a QB power, as Orvlosky points out in the broadcast. Look at the pulling lineman & TE.

Ed Ingram is 6 yards down field blocking lmao
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:40 pm to
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Marshall runs a out route the flats while Mcmath runs a 9 route.


These are both common clearing routes for running plays up the middle. Think about it, an out is one of the longest throws on the field. It’s not a hot route or “pop pass” as you say.

I don’t care what that site says, it probably uses some algorithm to determine a “likely” play call based on formation and some of the activity. They were QB draws and most people who understand how a RPO and read option offense works, know that to be correct.
Posted by P bean
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:44 pm to
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Ed Ingram is 6 yards down field blocking lmao


Keep proving you dont know how RPO works with these statements idiot!!! Oh my God! Hahahahah.

You think it matters on an RPO run? fricking idiot! Guhahajajahhajaha
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:45 pm to
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These are both common clearing routes for running plays up the middle. Think about it, an out is one of the longest throws on the field. It’s not a hot route or “pop pass” as you say.


Yes, very common on RPO running plays!!!!!!! This is classic - RPO’s are designed to be passed quickly. Whatever you want to call the route is irrelevant. They’re quick hitters
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:48 pm to
Wow, I can’t with you.

The very basis of a RPO is that the passing routes are short and easy throws. Neither a 9 or an out are easy short throws. Just because the QB fakes a hand off in shotgun does not make it an RPO. There has to be a viable passing option for it to be a RUN PASS OPTION play.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 9:51 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9573 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:51 pm to
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fricking earl is over here screen shotting, trying to say the WR’s werent running pass route these qb runs, despite the fact that they were OBVIOUSLY running pass routes!!!

The wide receivers always run routes on draw plays because a draw is a fricking fake pass. Running a draw without WR routes would be like running play action without a fake handoff.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:54 pm to
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The wide receivers always run routes on draw plays because a draw is a fricking fake pass. Running a draw without WR routes would be like running play action without a fake handoff.



This dude is just full out convinced he is right and refuses to listen to any reasoning.

I mean there’s a play with a fricking pulling guard that he screamed was an RPO
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4307 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:55 pm to
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quote:
Ed Ingram is 6 yards down field blocking lmao


Keep proving you dont know how RPO works with these statements idiot!!! Oh my God! Hahahahah.


Come on man. It can’t be an RPO with a lineman down field because if the QB pulls it to throw it’s a penalty for ineligible receiver down field. Get your shite straight.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 9:56 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93799 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Ed Ingram is 6 yards down field blocking lmao


Keep proving you dont know how RPO works with these statements idiot!!! Oh my God! Hahahahah.

You think it matters on an RPO run? fricking idiot!

Holy fricking shite. You're serious here? An RPO run? The OL wouldn't be blocking his man that far down the field if he knew that there was a chance that the QB was gonna throw. You're the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93799 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

This dude is just full out convinced he is right and refuses to listen to any reasoning.

I mean there’s a play with a fricking pulling guard that he screamed was an RPO

He called a QB run a handoff.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:00 pm to
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The OL wouldn't be blocking his man that far down the field if he knew that there was a chance that the QB was gonna throw. You're the gift that keeps on giving.



To be fair here on an RPO the line run blocks all the way. It’s up to the qb to get the ball out before they get too far downfield.

That being said the line sure as shite doesn’t pull.

He’s so caught up in what the receivers are doing, which means nothing, that he’s refusing to watch the true tell in the line play.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:01 pm to
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I mean there’s a play with a fricking pulling guard that he screamed was an RPO


Dude there a fricking website with a break down of EVERY playcall in the game that says Im right!

fricking clown.


LINK

It literally says every playcall, including the ones I said were qb run RPO’s.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:02 pm to
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To be fair here on an RPO the line run blocks all the way. It’s up to the qb to get the ball out before they get too far downfield.


LOL. This guys gets RPO’s.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
28678 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:05 pm to
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Dude there a fricking website with a break down of EVERY playcall in the game that says Im right!

fricking clown.


LINK

It literally says every playcall, including the ones I said were qb run RPO’s.



I don’t have to rely on a website because I know a QB power when I see one. You don’t pull guards on RPOs. It defeats the whole purpose of both an RPO and a pulling guard.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
28678 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:06 pm to
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fricking clown.


quote:

LOL. This guys gets RPO’s.



You’re talking about me in both of these quotes

My god you’re truly insane
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:08 pm to
Dont fall for Earl’s screen shots. He just cant say he’s wrong.

Apparently you do need the website.

LINK

If you look on the website and check the game, each play they describe as a qb run on an RPO the play shows the WR’s going into routes and lineman firing off. This is a staple of the RPO.


And Earl is on here back tracking trying to screen shot those plays and others etc., now saying he said they were draws not zone reads, wr’s werent in routes (total bullshite) blah blah

Go see for yourself.

Hope this helps you understand!
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 10:10 pm
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:20 pm to
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The wide receivers always run routes on draw plays because a draw is a fricking fake pass. Running a draw without WR routes would be like running play action without a fake handoff.


Guess how I know that you and Earl are clueless? Because you think Oline fire off on draw plays!!!!!!!! Keep it up dummies.

RPO’s the oline fires off and wr’s run routes.

On draws the Oline shows pass to get the dline to commit. They dont fire off like an RPO.

Thanks. For. Playing.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 10/26/20 at 10:50 pm to
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Neither a 9 or an out are easy short throws.


A 9 route is not a slow developing route its straight upfield, and the short out route from the slot is def is a quick out, and its opened up by the 9 route. Literally a textbook route combination on an RPO.


LOL why do you not even get this much?

If you want to say secstatcat.com is wrong about the playcalls be my guest. They’re not though.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53053 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 5:39 am to
Two major issues I see that's causing you a lot of confusion.

1. You think receivers block on read options and run routes on RPOs, this isn't true. Receivers run routes all the time to pull defensive backs out of a designed running play.

2. You think NFL and college RPOs are the same when they're two different concepts because the NFL has different rules regarding downfield blocking.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:58 am to
That stat is only the pass off the RPO.
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