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re: Why hasn't more been done to reign in the CIA/FBI?

Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:10 am to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13510 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:10 am to
When the election is over, Trump can get around the senate intel committee by firing Barr, Haspel, and Wray, and bringing in interim positions.

Its what he did with Grenell to get Radcliffe approved the second time around.

Bring in Sidney Powell for AG, Grenell for FBI and Flynn for CIA. With these three in even temporary capacity, they can lean on senators like Warner to get their positions permanent, he has enough dirt on him to go to prison, he will vote yeah just to get them off his arse, and that goes for little Marco as well.

Then you can start cleaning the agencies up. You dont have to fire them, just put them in a room with a desk, no phone, no computer, no pen or paper, and have them sit for eight hours a day, they will quit and pension out before week end.

The FBI has been run by Mueller/Comey/Wray for two decades, they arent the face of the FBI, they are the FBI. This bullshite about a few bad apples at the top, was it a few at the top doing these midnight raids on Stone and Cohen? Scared of losing their pension/following orders my arse, is that a good excuse. Same one the SS used in Auschwitz.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 2:13 am
Posted by majoredinwhitehorse
lower alabama
Member since Nov 2016
804 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:08 am to
Kennedy tried, see where it got him.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20462 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:42 am to
Remember how everyone in DC was scared to death of J. Edgar Hoover because he had the dirt on everyone? Same thing on roids. Politicians won’t touch the alphabet intelligence network with a 39 1/2 foot pole.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 6:43 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34993 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:03 am to
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Trump has been incredibly weak on holding the intelligence agencies accountable.



Trump is one person...the FBI is thousands; of the which many believed the bs coming down to their desks from "the Top".

There is one hope left...a MASSIVE Trump electoral victory; wherein it will be a clear mandate to clean out the 'Swamp'.

And even more sobering and downright depressing...is the massive lack of truthful vision in the populous. Most a culturally brainwashed into a Perceptive Paradigm of the which is so devoid of Spiritual and satisfying meaning, that any political policy is just nipping at the heels of a gargantuan beast.

Hard to admit, and sad to say, but it's going to take a total collapse and reboot to restore the kind of proper and truthful Vision into the People, upon which a prosperous (Spiritual and Worldly) society can exist. We are in 'Koyaanisqatsi' land; and like the Titanic and that iceberg...there are some things that can not be averted.

Pray for vision and mercy.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17513 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:38 am to
Uh, EVERYONE involved in the fake Russia BS has been fired at the FBI.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4637 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:40 am to
The intel agencies reign and one can never rein them in.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23796 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:41 am to
So you want these agencies to be Trump’s political weapons? Got it.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:43 am to
It’s at the point that Reset is the only thing that could fix it. Trump has exposed it but there’s only so much one man can do. Barr is, at the best, on the fence IMO.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57756 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:44 am to
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Because they actually rule this country and the politicians we elect.


The average American citizen doesn’t realize this. Their favored candidate is one they can manipulate. Hence why Trump has drawn the ire of so many in the intelligence community, he’s unpredictable.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:46 am to
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So you want these agencies to be Trump’s political weapons? Got it.


We want our intel agencies to act as agents of the United States and the citizens that live within. Do you know what apolitical means?

One thing for sure: I do not want CIA acting domestically. That is against the rules, right?

Kennedy was a Dem and he wanted to blow up the CIA for their bed sharing with MIC.

The left used to be against senseless war too. What happened to you dick heads? You are a cult, by definition.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
40067 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:04 am to
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These people are accountable to no one, and are nearly impossible to fire


This.

Just how do you root out every Lois Lerner, Eric Ciaramirela and Alex Vindman?
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22504 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:04 am to
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There is one hope left...a MASSIVE Trump electoral victory; wherein it will be a clear mandate to clean out the 'Swamp'.
It will also take a massive sweep by GOP in both houses of Congress, and resulting in robust GOP majorities in each...and not RINOs or GOPe plants.

I believe first step is to clear out the Pentagon of Obama loyalists at the top.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 8:05 am
Posted by PEEPO
Member since Sep 2020
1820 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:04 am to
I'm pretty sure you get JFK'd if you try.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
12810 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:07 am to
They are complicit with former admins in advancing their particular agenda.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:15 am to
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the last guy who tried this had his head turned into a canoe in front of hundreds of cheering onlookers


its worth repeating.
congress and POTUS are a shell of what they used to be in terms of power. The CIA runs shite and the FBI are their personal cops.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:17 am to
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Clinton did reign in the CIA,


He just put them behind the curtain. They have never been reigned in.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49003 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:24 am to
Well i mean they did laugh a preemptive coup against him.....

Are you stupid
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:31 am to
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Who said he had to fricking indict them? He can get in people that are loyal to him and the country though What kind of stupid fricking reply is that anyways? Of course he can't indict them you dipshit, I care less about them being in jail than I do them fricking him and us all in the arse while in those positions though. If you have nothing to post go somewhere else where they discuss mcdonald's drive through records or some shite




Name the people he can put in that the SENATE WILL ALSO CONFIRM. I’ll wait.... Senate swamp isn’t confirming people like Powell or Flynn for anything so you can go ahead and forget that.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 8:32 am
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:33 am to
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POTUS can fire leadership and place good people that will uphold the law in their place. Wray is a disgrace yet still in office.


Who are the good people that the senate swamp will actually confirm? Everyone I can think of they won’t go for.
Posted by relapse98
Member since Dec 2010
2736 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:45 am to
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and nothing has improved there under his watch


Because he doesn't want it to improve. It's better for him to have punching bags so he can trumped "me against the swamp" then to actually try and fix the problem.
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