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re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:13 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:13 am to
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At no point was his life in danger and pepper spray is not lethal, also he shot the guy after the pepper spray. your assumptions are based off emotion not facts.
18-1-704. Use of physical force in defense of a person

(1) Except as provided in subsections (2) and (3) of this section, a person is justified in using physical force upon another person in order to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by that other person, and he may use a degree of force which he reasonably believes to be necessary for that purpose.

(2) Deadly physical force may be used only if a person reasonably believes a lesser degree of force is inadequate and:

(a) The actor has reasonable ground to believe, and does believe, that he or another person is in imminent danger of being killed or of receiving great bodily injury; or

(b) The other person is using or reasonably appears about to use physical force against an occupant of a dwelling or business establishment while committing or attempting to commit burglary as defined in sections 18-4-202 to 18-4-204
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:16 am to
Pepper spray is not “great bodily injury”.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111799 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:18 am to
Lol. It’s Hank.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Pepper spray is not “great bodily injury”.
Maybe so and maybe no.

I was simply correcting a misstatement of the law by Ninthward.

Colorado statute defines “bodily injury,” but does not seem to define “great” bodily injury. I suspect this will provide a lot of leeway.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:19 am to
“Great bodily injury” isn’t something cured by a jug of milk.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111799 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:21 am to
Just no. No maybe so.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12816 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:23 am to
Oh good grief. If this was the other way around everyone would being saying it was justified.

Don't start none, won't be none. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes and all that.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:25 am to
LINK

quote:

Serious Bodily Injury”– has the same meaning as defined in section 42-4-1601(4)(b), C.R.S., namely: injury that involves, either at the time of the actual injury or at a later time, a substantial risk of death, a substantial risk of serious permanent disfigurement, or a substantial risk of protracted loss or impairment of the function of any part or organ of the body, or breaks, fractures, or burns of the second or third degree.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:25 am to
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Oh good grief. If this was the other way around everyone would being saying it was justified.


I wouldn’t be. So your statement is incorrect.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22373 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Pepper spray is not “great bodily injury”.


Who gets to decide that?... the guy will get his day in court.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 9:26 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:27 am to
Common law if it’s undefined, or they can extrapolate the definition of “serious bodily injury” above.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111799 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:27 am to
You took Advanced Civics?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Tiguar
Great bodily injury
vs
Serious bodily injury

You have convinced yourself that they are the same, bc you WANT them to be the same.

The rules of statutory interpretation beg to differ.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Don't start none, won't be none. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes and all that.
Dolloff was not even part of the initial confrontation. Victim turns from it and is immediately engaged with Dolloff. Who do you think initiated that confrontation? Considering Dolloff was observing the initial incident and approaching from the rear of the victim I think the most likely initiator is Dolloff.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111799 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:34 am to
What’s the difference in Colorado?
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:34 am to
quote:

The shooter is Antifa, whether he's a card carrier or not


I called it on page 7. This was an obvious conclusion from the first hour.
Posted by MI3
Member since Oct 2020
62 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:36 am to
its riotously funny to see that the guy walking around with bear mace covers his face, points it at the security guard and walks up to him, then slaps the shite out of him, and the kyle rittenhouse crowd are all acting like they wouldnt be cheering if the sides were reversed after he gets shot.

when the cops shot the guy with a taser in the back outside of Wendys in Atlanta they all said "well he could have tased the cops then taken their gun", but suddenly that scenario doesnt apply, even though the Wendys guy was trying to avoid a fight and this guy is trying to find one.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111799 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:36 am to
9News is now in a quandary.

I predict they don’t have ledger entries for Pinkerton and I predict Doloff never worked for Pinkerton.

But they’re saying they hired him. So are they going to be party to the lawsuit from deceased’s family? I would guess so.

But they probably don’t want to go back and admit they never really hired this guy.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:37 am to
Which is more severe, generally?

Hint: if it doesn’t meet the definition of “serious”, it sure as shite won’t meet the definition of “great”
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 9:40 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111799 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:38 am to
So if a leftist maces me, I can shoot them?

Just getting your rules of engagement on the books.
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