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re: Mask Facts - they don't work

Posted on 10/2/20 at 11:57 pm to
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5565 posts
Posted on 10/2/20 at 11:57 pm to
They obviously don't work because if they did then everybody would be wearing them
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43305 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 6:59 am to
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You either can't read or didn't read..or else you think spitting in people's mouths is how you get it


No, it is spread by droplets that can travel up to 6 feet. They are generated by people coughing, sneezing, shouting, singing, talking loudly, etc. The droplets get on your hands and clothes (which then gets on your hands) and you wipe your eyes or nose and the virus gets in that way.

This is why the recommended mitigation measures are hand washing, social distancing, and masks.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7537 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:35 am to
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Like my daddy used to always say.."A little bit is better than nothing


Just like women who want just the tip, but get the whole enchilada.
Posted by CredulousChowder
Boone, NC
Member since Sep 2020
161 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 8:42 am to
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At the very end of the spectrum, the researchers were shocked to find that not only were trendy face coverings such as bandanas and neck gaiters ineffective, but that they actually spread respiratory droplets more effectively than no mask at all. The reason for that, the study said, is because the thin material of the fleece splits the droplets into smaller particles, allowing them to spread more easily.

"We were extremely surprised to find that the number of particles measured with the fleece actually exceeded the number of particles measured without wearing any mask," Fischer told CNN.

Duke physician Eric Westman, another researcher involved in the study, said the findings about the less-effective masks are important because little information was available.

"They were no good," he said, according to DukeHealth.org. "The notion that ‘anything is better than nothing' didn't hold true."




remember the Duke study?

Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11304 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 8:48 am to
Cool - so wear better masks?
Posted by CredulousChowder
Boone, NC
Member since Sep 2020
161 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 8:59 am to
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Cool - so wear better masks?


Yes that's what the study said. It was a response to the "something better than nothing" sentiment.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1851 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 9:07 am to
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Cool - so wear better masks?


Why don't we buy everyone has masks, wear them from birth...we will be protected from everything

CDC COVID-19 Survival Rates

Age 0-19 — 99.997%
Age 20-49 — 99.98%
Age 50-69 — 99.5%
Age 70+ — 94.6%
Posted by Chieeefs
Member since Aug 2019
210 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:32 am to
An organization that hypothesized that HIV doesn't cause AIDS has absolutely no credibility in my book.

You might as well have posted a study/article from the National Enquirer, DailyMail, or Bleacher Report
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 10:33 am
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5062 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:03 am to
Yeah places like South Korea and New Zealand with less deaths than EBR parrish never use masks
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9613 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
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An organization that hypothesized that HIV doesn't cause AIDS has absolutely no credibility in my book.

You might as well have posted a study/article from the National Enquirer, DailyMail, or Bleacher Report


Seriously. Even the most basic search reveals that this website is full of pseudoscience.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1851 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:46 pm to
There are 70 links to several studies in the article, they didn't do the studies, they compiled the data
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6561 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:48 pm to
I get my mask science from countries that have handled COVID better than the US:

Public Health Agency of Sweden

quote:

The scientific evidence around the effectiveness of face masks in combatting the spread of infection is weak, which is why different countries have arrived at different recommendations.

Some countries have chosen to view face masks as a form of security and hope that universal use of face masks will reduce the risk of infection spreading from people who are in the incubation period, before the symptoms are apparent, or who have such mild or unspecific symptoms that they do not consider themselves ill.

The Public Health Agency of Sweden does not recommend the general use of face masks, as a face mask that itches or slips down below the nose may mean a person is regularly touching their mouth, eyes or nose with their hands, which can increase the risk of the infection spreading.

Use of a facemask may also encourage people with mild symptoms to go out into the community, which might increase the spread of infection.

The Public Health Agency of Sweden is constantly assessing the state of knowledge in this area and reviews new information from various sources.
Posted by Chieeefs
Member since Aug 2019
210 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 12:50 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 1:00 pm to
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Looks like shite is trending in wrong direction for them.


Sweden’s entire strategy was and is based on getting to herd immunity as quickly as possible. You just linked to an article saying they have an increase in cases, not deaths or even hospitalizations.

Where’s the problem, exactly?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6561 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Looks like shite is trending in wrong direction for them.
Speaking of trending in the wrong direction:

Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9613 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 2:17 pm to
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There are 70 links to several studies in the article, they didn't do the studies, they compiled the data


Do you not see where that "article" has links to the NY Post, Twitter, The Sun (UK), and "World Today News," among other questionable sources?

Moreover, when they do actually link to a reputable source, they cherry pick quotes in a way that completely destroys context and distorts the original authors' intended argument.

No legitimate scientist, much less a first-year college student, would be allowed to compile sources in such a careless fashion.
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3187 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 2:25 pm to
There is a study within your link that recommends mask-wearing to decrease viral inoculum and thus severity of illness.

It also allows for more of the economy to be safely opened up.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7196 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 2:31 pm to
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Conclusion: Wearing masks (other than N95) will not be effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, whether worn as source control or as PP


N-95 mask in theory would trap more "droplets and more sooner than later infect the person wearing them.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59750 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 2:37 pm to
If those droplets came from the wearer than they already have it.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9535 posts
Posted on 10/3/20 at 3:12 pm to
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Why don't we buy everyone has masks,

Not sure if I’m reading your broken English correctly, but HHS and USPS were going to send masks to every household in America at one point, before the plan got cancelled because of concerns it would cause a panic. Still, HHS has distributed over 600 million masks since April.
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wear them from birth...we will be protected from everything

CDC COVID-19 Survival Rates

Age 0-19 — 99.997%
Age 20-49 — 99.98%
Age 50-69 — 99.5%
Age 70+ — 94.6%

So you’re pivoting from “they don’t work” to “we don’t need them”... why?
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There are 70 links to several studies in the article, they didn't do the studies, they compiled the data

Yeah, they compiled the shite out of that data. From sources such as the “Covid19crusher” Twitter account and the NY Post.

That said, they also cited legitimate sources. So, sure - if you consider linking a million studies and then making up conclusions that didn’t actually come from those studies to be solid analysis - I guess they accomplished what you were looking for.
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