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People who refuse to get out of a car when pulled over

Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:08 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53814 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:08 pm
Just saw the Tulsa shooting of 2 officers...this is bad news, and it was a white guy this time...so there is that!

We need new tactics for police to apprehend the suspect who refuses to get out of the car when commanded to do so.

put something behind the resistor's wheels so he/she can't drive off (something that would pop the tires)

call in a massive fork lift....or tow truck, get that vehicle on a lift...

break windows out for air if necessary, to avoid lawsuit if they can't breathe...

tell them they might want to wear a seat belt for the ride downtown... but "it's their choice to obey the law or not" LOL

drop them off behind a newly built outdoor prison (big walls)...just for idiots who resist...

fork lift / trucker drops the car off inside the prison walls...bright Lights on 24/7 all outdoor facility, no AC, no TV, no bed, no food, no bathroom, no nothing just their vehicle and open field with other idiots

when the idiot gets hungry, thirsty, cold, or hot and sober....they might want to talk and be cooperative?

At least everyone goes home safe...in the end...

"Insurance pays for the damages to the vehicle"
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142919 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:09 pm to
sovereign citizens don't have to get out
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:09 pm to
I'm at the point where if you simply refuse, deadly force is the first option. You can't take chances anymore, this is the world they asked for.
Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1805 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

I'm at the point where if you simply refuse, deadly force is the first option. You can't take chances anymore, this is the world they asked for.


I hate that I agree. I have thought about this all day. At what point after the police exhaust all non-lethal options can they shoot the perp? Taser doesn't work, pepper spray doesn't work, wrestling him out doesn't work. These cops put themselves (undeservedly) in danger when they have to wrestle a guy like this out of a car.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53814 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

'm at the point where if you simply refuse, deadly force is the first option.


Nah, we can't do that...

that's over the top policing...dead force because someone want's to be stupid? no...that's not going to fly

we need to apprehend these people safely

instead of force by handcuffs and back of police vehicle

new method, they take a ride in their own car...

To me it works as well as the big wall

people thought a big wall at the border was crazy...but it works

I am asking you to give this some thought
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
50054 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:26 pm to
K9s get more compliance
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53814 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

sovereign citizens don't have to get out


they claim to believe in God but never read Roman's 13




Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1794 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:39 pm to
Like a friend of mine says, you've been pulled over, they've already run your plates, they're not going to lose interest in you and leave.

Follow directions, provide documentation. Basically you're doing damage control to avoid any unnecessary additional charges.

Or, you can be an arse, throw a fit, piss them off and see how that works out for you.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:41 pm to
Your idea is stupid.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30640 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

sovereign citizens don't have to get out


The law doesn’t apply to them.



























And the protection of the law doesn’t apply to them.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:46 pm to
What's to stop this guy from shooting the cops from the comfort of his driver's seat as he's being winched on a flat bed or anytime before that? That's a dumb idea.
Posted by texn
Pronouns: Y'All/Y'All's
Member since Nov 2019
3523 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:53 pm to
Cattle prods applied from the passenger side of the car.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14909 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:02 pm to
Perhaps some sort of pepper spray in the car.

Make them want to get out of the car. Make the car unpleasant so they want to get out.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
37041 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:26 pm to
Watch the Tulsa video, they did everything possible to get him out of the car. Including pepper spray.
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18185 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:34 pm to
How about a round through the engine block?
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2196 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:35 pm to
That was some fricked up shite to see, but worse is the replies... that this is ok, i just don’t know anymore
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

I'm at the point where if you simply refuse, deadly force is the first option. You can't take chances anymore, this is the world they asked for.



I agree , problem is we are a country of arse licking pussies and it will never happen.
Posted by Linigus
Member since May 2020
127 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:51 pm to
Best answer is to bring in canine unit. If they could somehow make sure a door or window (break it) stays open so the dog can get in. Then the perp can negotiate with a dog. If he shoots the dog, then deadly force, all cops, guns ablaze.

Downside, small PD's and Sheriffs offices may not have canine units on call.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:16 am to
I propose we stop paying idiots to breed.

Seriously, make it harder to vote, cut off ALL welfare after the first child and let the chips fall where they may.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4551 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:33 am to

If the suspect won't get out when requested:

1. Boot the car
2. Wait for the suspect to emerge.
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