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re: People who refuse to get out of a car when pulled over

Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:42 am to
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:42 am to
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10394 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:45 am to
It's not worth getting a dog hurt or killed if they call a K-9 unit. If they refuse to comply, they have to be shot. They have to stop playing games with these idiots.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6893 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:50 am to
I’m all for using tranquilizer darts like they use on large animals. Drag his body out, throw him in the clink and let him sleep it off.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:53 am to
quote:

I'm at the point where if you simply refuse, deadly force is the first option.

But announce it first, like "hey dickhead, either you come out now or some lead is coming in."
quote:

You can't take chances anymore, this is the world they asked for.

I've seen Booms and this is a Boom
Posted by Welwood
Florida
Member since Oct 2017
327 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:56 am to
quote:

If the suspect won't get out when requested:


LINK
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:58 am to
I saw this mentioned in a thread previously. There was a linked video. It was twitter and I was unable to view at work. Anyone have the link?
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:59 am to
Flash bang them.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:00 am to
1.a Record the stop - in this day and age it's stupid not to have.
1.b Shoot out the tires - to slowdown any possible run.

2) Call SWAT

3) Wait with gun(s) drawn.

4) Press/apply any and all appropriate charges. Including a (eta: many) dollar service charge for the addition cost for being stupid (if proven guilty).
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 8:02 am
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:28 am to
Screw all the pandering techniques you just described.

Put a billy club to the head.


Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:38 am to
Seems like somebody should have a gun drawn on the a-hole while non-lethal stuff is used. At least that way the other officer can try some things without worrying about the a-hole getting the drop on them.

Having a gun aimed at you is a strong deterent against trying to grab your own gun from wherever it is.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29416 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:00 am to
frick that shite.

Break their back window and throw a canister of tear gas in the vehicle.

They’ll come out.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32219 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:04 am to
Tear gas on the floorboard might do the trick
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56220 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:05 am to
Put a dog on their asses.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59603 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:06 am to
I say we drop a polypropylene dome over the car and fill with sleeping gas.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:07 am to
Unless they put it in drive, take off, and hit someone.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32219 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Unless they put it in drive, take off, and hit someone.


That's always an option regardless how you attempt to detain them.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42548 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:24 am to
Good idea - perhaps they can come up with some simple way to disable the car
=> zap the computer so it cannot run?
=> Place the tire puncture blocks around all tires?

Tell the perp he needs to get out of the car, or we will wait right here for reinforcements to arrive and he will be financially responsible for all the extra effort/costs involved in obtaining compliance with the law.

Tell the perp he has one minute to make that decision and after that he is violating some other statute for which he will be held criminally liable.

We need to make that "other statute" a federal law so that biased DA's cannot dismiss the charge.

ALSO - we need to put a heavy emphasis on not making trivial stops. LEOs should feel as liable to the legal process as other citizens. Perhaps stiffer training on how the new 'look over the shoulders of LEO' will work.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 9:25 am to
quote:

That's always an option regardless how you attempt to detain them.



No doubt. There may not be a good answer to this problem.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13501 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 11:53 am to
Refuse to get out of car???





They will exit the car.


Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13260 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

What's to stop this guy from shooting the cops from the comfort of his driver's seat as he's being winched on a flat bed or anytime before that? That's a dumb idea.


Stay drawn on him and warn him if he reaches for anything then shots will be fired.
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