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6 Saints players earning rave reviews at training camp

Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by GMoney2600
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:08 am
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The New Orleans Saints kicked off their first training camp practice in pads on Monday, and some players impressed more than others. Here’s a quick look at who was talked up after their first practice session that actually looked like real football:

1. DB P.J. Williams, #26
Williams produced a pair of takeaways in Monday’s practice, forcing a fumble out of backup running back Dwayne Washington (recovered by new defensive lineman Margus Hunt) and intercepting a too-high pass that tipped off of rookie wideout Juwan Johnson’s hands. He also did so while lined up at both safety and cornerback. After practice, Sean Payton had this to say about Williams’ big day and the cross-training between positions:

“Well I like the fact that he’s smart, he’s got good ball skills. He had a caused fumble today and an interception today, so he’s one of those players that has good football I.Q., so it’s good to give him some additional work. He’s also taken snaps at playing in the nickel, he’s got some versatility.”

2. WR Emmanuel Butler, #18
Butler was dominant in solo work, winning both of his reps against second-year pro Ceedy Duce (formerly known as C.J. Gardner-Johnson). What’s impressive is that Butler beat his opponent with both speed and strength, streaking down the sideline and outmuscling him at the catch point in turn.

Hopefully he’ll translate those big moments into team drills, and earn a spot on the opening-day roster. The Saints only have a few game-proven receivers on hand between Michael Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders — Deonte Harris might be a prodigy in the return game, but it’s unclear how big a role he’ll command on offense — and Tre’Quan Smith has a lot to prove. If Butler impresses as much in camp as he did last year, he just might be the guy to fill out the depth chart.

3. CB Janoris Jenkins, #20
Jenkins’ best moment saw him flash past the line of scrimmage on a corner blitz to swat down a screen pass from Taysom Hill, targeting Alvin Kamara. But he also held his own in one-on-one drills against Emmanuel Sanders with tight coverage and another pass breakup.

It’s early, but seeing Jenkins retain his rare ball skills into his ninth year in the NFL is a great sign. He’s picked off multiple passes every season back to 2014, and set a new career high in 2019 with five interceptions. He and Marshon Lattimore have the makings of a tremendous one-two punch at cornerback (Lattimore also recorded an interception on an underthrown deep pass from Taysom Hill).

4. P Blake Gillikin, #4
That’s right: an undrafted rookie punter who was guaranteed nothing more than a $5,000 signing bonus turned some heads on Monday. Gillikin dropped three punts inside the 5-yard line during special teams drills, with NewOrleans.Football’s Nick Underhill noting his hangtime twice surpassed 4.7 seconds — an impressive feat even by NFL standards. For context, Pro Football Focus charting back in 2014 had a 4.44-second average hang time on those targeted punts deep in enemy territory.

Gillikin shouldn’t threaten Thomas Morstead’s job security, but the combination of his obvious skill and the expanded 16-strong practice squad mean the Saints could keep him around in case of an emergency later this year. He’s certainly set the right tone early on.

5. DE Cameron Jordan, #94
It kind of goes without saying that the best players stood out the most, but it’s always nice to be reminded that Jordan doesn’t really know how to let off the gas. He blew up the first play run by Drew Brees in team drills by crashing through the offensive line, earning a sack. A couple of minutes later, he followed up by splitting a called sack with David Onyemata. And after practice, he shouted out rookie linebacker Zack Baun, who also disrupted Brees in the 11-on-11 session. Jordan has been vocal about his readiness for the season to start all summer, and so far, he’s backing up the big talk.

6. QB Jameis Winston, #2
He had a couple of low moments, sure — Winston targeted one pass too high for the 6-foot-4 Juwan Johnson, which bounced off his receiver’s hands and into P.J. Williams’ mitts — but on the whole Winston turned in the strongest day of the three Saints quarterbacks. He certainly showed off the strongest arm of the trio, and flashed great touch with on-point completions far downfield to Emmanuel Butler and Tre’Quan Smith. The story for Winston now is the same as it was when the Saints first signed him: if he can cut down on the turnovers, he just might be an upper-tier quarterback.
Posted by Swagga
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:34 am to
The Emmanuel butler training camp hype train is full steam ahead again. I love it.


One guy I was hoping to see on here is Tre’Quan Smith. He needs to take the next step or it maybe time to move on.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 9:36 am
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:38 am to
That whole list is great news
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20602 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:54 am to
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DB P.J. Williams, #26

Doesn't he make these lists every year, then he gets in the game and....
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:05 am to
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Doesn't he make these lists every year, then he gets in the game and....


yep, P.J. Williams should have been cut from this team 3 years ago, they just keep making excuses to keep mediocre players at best instead of cutting them loose and trying new talent
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101873 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:21 am to
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WR Emmanuel Butler


This guy again
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:28 am to
Last preseason Zach Strief was calling a Butler a steal in the same mold as Colston.

Then he got hurt and disappeared only lose playing time to scrubs like Lil Jordan and Krishawn Hogan wtf?

It's going to be interesting without preseason to see if they trust him. He whiffed a bit in preseason last year. Hope he's not another Adrian Arrington.
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1428 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:42 am to
PJ was pretty good last season. Every player isn't Cam or Latt.
Posted by Shameless
Member since Jan 2017
914 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:44 am to
I mean, PJ playing the nickel well enough and having the versatility to play safety if needed in addition to his veteran presence is what is keeping him around. Who should be replacing him exactly?
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
3044 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 11:22 am to
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yep, P.J. Williams should have been cut from this team 3 years ago, they just keep making excuses to keep mediocre players at best instead of cutting them loose and trying new talent


PJ is a bad outside corner but is a solid nickel corner and has shown he can make plays. If is going to make the team this year again and he should. If anything they should cut our third string nickel corner PRob.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 12:04 pm to
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4. P Blake Gillikin, #4
That’s right: an undrafted rookie punter who was guaranteed nothing more than a $5,000 signing bonus turned some heads on Monday. Gillikin dropped three punts inside the 5-yard line during special teams drills, with NewOrleans.Football’s Nick Underhill noting his hangtime twice surpassed 4.7 seconds — an impressive feat even by NFL standards. For context, Pro Football Focus charting back in 2014 had a 4.44-second average hang time on those targeted punts deep in enemy territory.

Gillikin shouldn’t threaten Thomas Morstead’s job security, but the combination of his obvious skill and the expanded 16-strong practice squad mean the Saints could keep him around in case of an emergency later this year. He’s certainly set the right tone early on.


Chadgasm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25916 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 1:04 pm to
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Williams should have been cut from this team 3 years ago,


This is a popular opinion, but it’s really nearsighted. Coming out of college, all of his highlights were tackles close to the line. His NFL career has shown that he is good the first 10yards, can play inside at the nickel, and is more suited for Safety.

We simply asked him to do things he isn’t suited to do.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2541 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 1:06 pm to
I saw an internet quote last year , that said PJ should change his name tp TD as many as he gives up.
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3475 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:09 pm to
Gillikan---At some point you are going to have to move on from Morstead. It may not be popular but to be able to lock down a good one and maybe save some cap space.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73801 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:39 pm to
It would be great to have a entire secondary made up of no.1's.

We have a very solid secondary.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 2:56 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73893 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Last preseason Zach Strief was calling a Butler a steal in the same mold as Colston.

Then he got hurt and disappeared only lose playing time to scrubs like Lil Jordan and Krishawn Hogan wtf?

It's going to be interesting without preseason to see if they trust him. He whiffed a bit in preseason last year. Hope he's not another Adrian Arrington.



Butler was an UDFA. There should be no expectations on a guy who did not cost draft capitals. There are highly drafted WRs that teams are cutting or still waiting on production

Posted by Mook1e
Member since Jun 2018
198 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Doesn't he make these lists every year, then he gets in the game and....


...and plays pretty solid?
He has his strengths and weaknesses, but If he’s your 5th or 6th best db.. I’ll take it.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11001 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 3:21 pm to
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but on the whole Winston turned in the strongest day of the three Saints quarterbacks.


Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33422 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:24 pm to
Cant believe we have to call that dude ceedy duce

Dude balled out in his rookie year but that shite is laughable
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33422 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:28 pm to
Love that we finally have a great 2nd corner
Jackrabbit is a vet and you know what you are getting
We have been missing that since jabari Greer

I think butler makes the team this year
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