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Apocalypse Now question

Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:49 pm
Just finished this movie and dang, what a brutal movie. Especially the water buffalo slaying that is actually real. My question is the writing in Kurtz typed pages that says drop the bomb on them all. So is it assumed he wanted the army to kill all the villagers that worshipped him?
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:06 pm to
Kurtz wanted to win the war. He knew the US was not going about it the right way and was holding back. They had to get more brutal and forget the past rules. The bomb kills em all.

Kurtz ultimately didn't care about anyone... His guys, the enemy, nonone. He liked Willard because he saw himself in him. He become a crazed maniac who didn't even want to live himself. He only loved death and despair.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:12 pm to
You might be interested in reading Heart of Darkness
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

He only loved death and despair.


And tons of Pho with dumplings.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:29 pm to
Rare stills of Harvey Keitel as Willard. He was replaced by Martin Sheen three weeks into shooting.

Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:29 pm to
They were gonna make me a major for this and I wasn't even in their fricking army anymore.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:22 pm to
I read heart of Darkness and high school and didn’t get it.

I had To read it in college and got all the background and history. It’s an amazing book.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:36 pm to
LINK ]Orson Welles/Mercury Theater On The Air - "Heart of Darkness" (November 6, 1938)

Welles produced this radio version of Conrad's story the week after his infamous "War Of The Worlds" broadcast. It's especially significant as "HoD" was the property he went to Hollywood intending to film.

Welles with a model of the paddleboat he planned to use for his never-made film of Heart Of Darkness.

Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:28 am to
There's a great interview with Milius and Coppola about the writing of Apocalypse Now. LINK

Milius was so motivated by the fact that Welles couldn't figure it out or get it made for the screen.

He used Vietnam War stories of his buddies to flesh out the bizarre nature of it all. He then infused his own surfing culture into it.

He also completely came up with the Air Cav scenes. It's genius stuff. It's why I always say the Apocalypse Now script is one of the best ever... Well, except the ending. Once he gets to Kurtz, the film takes a nosedive.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 7:52 am to
I dunno. Hopper saves the Kurtz scenes.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 10:42 am to
quote:

It's why I always say the Apocalypse Now script is one of the best ever... Well, except the ending. Once he gets to Kurtz, the film takes a nosedive.


In fairness, they had to basically rewrite the ending on the fly when Brando showed up looking like fricking Butterbean.
Posted by msap9020
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Kurtz wanted to win the war. He knew the US was not going about it the right way and was holding back. They had to get more brutal and forget the past rules. The bomb kills em all. Kurtz ultimately didn't care about anyone... His guys, the enemy, nonone. He liked Willard because he saw himself in him. He become a crazed maniac who didn't even want to live himself. He only loved death and despair.


All of this plus I always assumed that the tribal folks around Kurtz were supposed to portray the Montagnard tribe that the US special forces fought with against the NVA and Viet Cong.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:44 pm to
Not sure if any of you enjoy Critical Drinker on YouTube, but he just released a new video about Apocalypse Now two days ago...good stuff.

LINK
Posted by Stonehenge
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:20 pm to
The horror! The horror!
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

except the ending. Once he gets to Kurtz, the film takes a nosedive.


I disagree. The ending takes it from a decent war movie to a deeply psychotic epic.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39138 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:16 pm to
I think he abhorred their worship of him as coming from the dark side of humanity.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:42 pm to
You want to see a nice take on this, check out a short called "Porklips Now". It was made sometime in the 70's and is a direct takeoff of "Apocalypse Now" starring Billy Gray.

Gray got his start in TV in the early 60's playing Bud on the show "Father Knows Best" and was Patricia Neal's kid in the 1951 movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" with Michael Rennie as the alien.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

a direct takeoff of "Apocalypse Now"
LINK ]My favorite AN spoof
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:13 pm to
Found it on YouTube; never seen that one before.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:34 pm to
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