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Has JRussell's college career been dissed because of his NFL failure?

Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:31 am
Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
1537 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:31 am
I don't know who could throw a football farther, or tighter...Russell, or Davey. Both could throw it through a mailslot at 60 yards.
It seems like he MAY get a wink-and-a-nod because of his #1 overall-bust.
But I think he is a top-5 all timer for LSU.
Burrow
Hodson
Jones
Russell
Davey
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42975 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:38 am to
The way he carved up Notre Dame in that Sugar Bowl was impressive.
I guess when he saw those dollar signs with guaranteed money he lost it. Let's not forget he went to the worst run organization in the NFL in the Raiders. I really think had he been in a better organization he might have had a chance.
Posted by redfish99
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Member since Aug 2007
16511 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:43 am to
His arm was so strong and release so quick he didn’t need to throw on timing or read defenses. He suffered greatly for never having learned the finer points of playing the position at the highest level. But arm talent was as good as anyone to ever sling it.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 11:55 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:45 am to
Russel never read a defense in college. He dropped back and rarely threw on rhythm. A lot of it was sitting in the pocket having dudes just bounce off of him and he scrambled a little then slung it downfield when Dwayne Bowe eventually got open.

He was a very good college quarterback with great talent just never took the next step mentally that would have made him a good NFL quarterback.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12412 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:48 am to
quote:

don't know who could throw a football farther, or tighter...Russell, or Davey.


JR had a much stronger arm than Rohan. Not even close.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:55 am to
Russell had everything physically you could want except brains. His decision making skills were terrible.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56663 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:59 am to
quote:

I don't know who could throw a football farther, or tighter...Russell, or Davey


Russell, by a lot.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278627 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:08 am to
They never really took the training wheels off of him at LSU. His college career is not dissed, but he just wasn't as popular as he could have been in other offenses.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25720 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:19 am to
If his uncle didn’t die he would have lasted a lot longer in the nfl. He looked up to his uncle and he got on him when he was messing up. I think his uncle died of cancer right before he got drafted. Jamarcus still needs accountability and that is on him for not taking care of business.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89607 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:33 am to
If he had stayed for the championship in 07 he would be remembered much better, IMHO.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:39 am to
JR's college career has always been misremembered and overrated in hindsight. It was a bad draft year and the idiot raiders have always been in love with the long ball. Notre dame's crappy defense made JR more money than anything. JR was ok but he was more of a 3rd or 4th rd project to anyone with a clue.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14889 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:53 am to
I always thought Russell was inconsistent. He could and would make throws that only one or two NFL QBs could make (like rolling out, flicking his wrist and hitting a tightly covered receiver in stride 50+ yards downfield for a TD againt MS State) and then couldn’t make routine throws to open receivers (see the entire game against AU in ‘06). The light came on for him in the latter half of ‘06, but the rest of his career was a bit of s roller-coaster.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66806 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:14 pm to
If you have to ask if he is a top 5 LSU QB then the question is answered. When he left that wasn’t when debatable.

When he left he was 3rs in career Passing Yarda (in only 3 years)
2nd in single season Passing Yarda
1st (Tied) in single season passing TD
2nd in career passing TDS (again in only 3 years)

He wasn’t just arguably top 5 but arguably the best before Burrow. The only reason to argue otherwise would be his NFL career.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71213 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Has JRussell's college career been dissed because of his NFL failure?



There are people on this board who seriously think Flynn was a better QB at LSU than Russell, so yes.


Until Burrow, Russell was the best QB LSU had in quite some time.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 12:35 pm
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5704 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:44 pm to
Jones and Russell ahead of Hodson
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9484 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 1:47 pm to
I think Russell’s 2006 game vs Tennessee encapsulates his career very well.

He threw three touchdowns. This included a throw over the middle to Buster Davis that was an absolute laser and only a handful of QBs ever could make. Another TD was the game winner to Doucet after a last minute drive.

He also threw 3 interceptions. One was returned for a touchdown and the turnovers in general are why the game came down to a last minute drive. That game ending touchdown to Doucet was “intercepted” by Doucet and was intended for Bowe.

JR was a better QB than Flynn in college and a generational talent. He was also inconsistent and could put team in positions that required heroics. I think he could have been an even better college QB than he was with a better scheme and approach that suited his game.
Posted by Swamp Goat
Member since Apr 2019
133 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 2:39 pm to
JaMarcus was awesome here. Had some inconsistencies but aside from a couple of games (Florida & Auburn in ‘06, Georgia in ‘05) he was generally incredible to watch in 2005-2006 with some of the things he did. I tell people all the time that he’s one of my favorite Tigers, but casual and younger fans definitely let his NFL failures cloud their judgement of his LSU career.

I know he has himself to blame with his NFL career, I just wish he could’ve gone to a more stable franchise. Not saying he would’ve lived up to the hype by any means, but him going to the shite show that was the Oakland Raiders in those days was the absolute worst thing that could’ve happened.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39601 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 3:22 pm to
I cannot agree. They rarely turned Russell loose because they didn't trust him. He was not top five for LSU.

Burrow, Bert Jones, Hodson, Davey, Screen, Ensminger, Risher were all better college QBs. Although only Bert Jones had the same level of talent.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19277 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 4:11 pm to
A company I was at a long time ago worked LSU players in the summer. One of JR’s lineman worked for us. He said the man had Superman talent but was dumb as a box of rocks. He said that often times in the huddle he would have to ask a black lineman what they were running because he couldn’t understand JR
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19850 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 6:10 pm to
Who cares about his arm he never won anything. Ironic that year after he leaves LSU wins natty
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