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Study: Adults don't really transmit C19 to kids in home.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:16 am
Found this interesting study in the Pediatrics journal this morning.
Journal of Pediatrics
quote:
Knowledge of transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 from adults to children in household settings is limited. We found an attack rate among 213 children in 137 households to be 6.1% in households with a confirmed adult 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) case. Transmission from an adult to a child occurred in only 5.2% of households. Young children <5 years old were at lowest risk of infection (1.3%). Children were most likely to be infected if the household index case was the mother....
During March and April, among 137 households with a total of 223 adults (index patients) with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19, 213 children aged =16 years were tested for SARS-CoV-2; 13 cases were detected in seven households, for an attack rate of 6.1% among children and 5.2% of households with confirmed exposure to COVID-19 (Table). One case child reported sore throat at the time of screening; one other had a single temperature reading of 100 F during hospitalization, but none had respiratory or any other symptoms...
In age-stratified analysis, the attack rate was 1.3% among children aged <5 years, 8.1% among those aged 5–9 years, and 9.8% among those aged 10–16 years. Attack rates were similar, regardless of the sex of the child. The attack rate among children was highest when the household index case was the mother (11.1%), and lower and similar if the index case was the father (6.7%) or a grandparent (6.3%)....
Journal of Pediatrics
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Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:17 am to prplhze2000
and there is a study saying kids don't give it to adults
Hmmmm
Hmmmm
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:18 am to prplhze2000
Cool. I don't really know what to believe.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:20 am to Sao
quote:
Cool. I don't really know what to believe.
The only thing we know is that fragile old people and fat people are high risk for hospitalization and death
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:20 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:20 am to Cosmo
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The only thing we know is that fragile old people and fat people are high risk for hospitalization and death
SHUT IT DOWN
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:21 am to Cosmo
The narrative has shifted from deaths to “long term effects” of the disease including potentially permanent lung scarring, chronic fatigue, and other damaged organs.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:22 am to Cosmo
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The only thing we know is that fragile old people and fat people are high risk for hospitalization and death
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:22 am to theunknownknight
listen to the experts. the experts say everyone should mask up and stay home and shut this economy down.....till November.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:23 am to prplhze2000
How is any of this even possible?
A virus that is mild or not even noticed by up to half of the people that get it
Isn't passed to or from children
But is so contagious and severe that the entire world has freaked out over it for 5 months.
What's going on?
A virus that is mild or not even noticed by up to half of the people that get it
Isn't passed to or from children
But is so contagious and severe that the entire world has freaked out over it for 5 months.
What's going on?
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:23 am to Cosmo
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The only thing we know is that fragile old people and fat people are high risk for hospitalization and death
That seems to be the key. Being young and skinny doesn't make you bullet proof from getting infected and feeling sick though.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:25 am to theunknownknight
quote:
and there is a study saying kids don't give it to adults
That's not what the latest data shows.
Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:26 am to Gray Tiger
quote:The horror.
Being young and skinny doesn't make you bullet proof from getting infected and feeling sick though.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:27 am to Lonnie Utah
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That's not what the latest data shows.
quote:
New York Times
No thanks
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:28 am to prplhze2000
The medical studies have become so partisan politicized and being published before any honest peer review work has been done.
I don’t trust any of them. We are in a sad state of affairs
I don’t trust any of them. We are in a sad state of affairs
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:29 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:31 am to Lonnie Utah
quote:Did you read the article/study? That wasn't the actual conclusion. You had a situation in SK where kids from 10-18 were more likely to not adhere to the social distancing guidelines and spent much more time around each other than smaller kids who listened and are more easily controlled by adults and adults who were more likely to do as the SK government told them to do. This wasn't a study based on age. It was a study based on behavior.
Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:33 am to Sao
quote:
Cool. I don't really know what to believe.
I don't think anyone does. So much mixed information out there.
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:34 am to ell_13
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This wasn't a study based on age.
quote:
We monitored 59,073 contacts of 5,706 COVID-19 index patients for an average of 9.9 (range 8.2–12.5) days after severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection was detected (Table 1). Of 10,592 household contacts, index patients of 3,417 (32.3%) were 20–29 years of age, followed by those 50–59 (19.3%) and 40–49 (16.5%) years of age (Table 2). A total of 11.8% (95% CI 11.2%–12.4%) household contacts of index patients had COVID-19; in households with an index patient 10–19 years of age, 18.6% (95% CI 14.0%–24.0%) of contacts had COVID-19. For 48,481 nonhousehold contacts, the detection rate was 1.9% (95% CI 1.8%–2.0%) (Table 2). With index patients 30–39 years of age as reference, detection of COVID-19 contacts was significantly higher for index patients >40 years of age in nonhousehold settings. For most age groups, COVID-19 was detected in significantly more household than nonhousehold contacts (Table 2).
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:40 am to Lonnie Utah
I mean that it was simply broken down that way. If you read the limitations section, it discusses the issues with not testing asymptomatic cases which are very high in the 10-19 age range and would account for the "high" rate of spread that the study concluded.
So you have two issues, both of which are admitted to in the study:
1) This age group is more likely to spend time with people of that same age adhering less than any other group to social distancing.
2) There are many in that age group that are asymptomatic and this study skipped them.
You can see that in the two tables linked. Table 1 and Table 2
Specifically, look at table 2 and the traces from household to non-household. From the 10-19 group, it's a 1 to 1 ratio whereas every other group is much higher at a 7 to 1 ratio in some cases.
So you have two issues, both of which are admitted to in the study:
1) This age group is more likely to spend time with people of that same age adhering less than any other group to social distancing.
2) There are many in that age group that are asymptomatic and this study skipped them.
You can see that in the two tables linked. Table 1 and Table 2
Specifically, look at table 2 and the traces from household to non-household. From the 10-19 group, it's a 1 to 1 ratio whereas every other group is much higher at a 7 to 1 ratio in some cases.
This post was edited on 7/20/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:46 am to Gray Tiger
quote:
Being young and skinny doesn't make you bullet proof from getting infected and feeling sick though.
reeeeee...I'm gonna feel sick...please save me.
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