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re: Texas surge in Covid cases.....lies and deceit

Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:17 am to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:17 am to
Do you support more shutdowns, yes or no?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:17 am to
It’s almost as if their party is milking this for everything it’s worth.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:18 am to
He won’t answer. He’s scared and he knows it looks weak. He’s hiding behind his interpretation of the data.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:19 am to
quote:

My attitude is that I would rather deal with it head on now. I don’t want to jeopardize the school year and fall athletics having to be shut down.


Then why the frick are you kvetching now?
Posted by Angry Bruce Pearl
Florida
Member since Jul 2020
599 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:21 am to
I had this thought the other day - like a quarter of the population gets the seasonal flu every year but we don't test millions of people without flu symptoms. Wouldn't seasonal flu numbers also be higher than we think because of people who come into contact with the flu but don't get sick from it? Why are we treating Covid differently? We have treatments and therapeutics now, we know old people are particularly vulnerable. What's the problem with moving back to normal? You can be careful about who and what you touch and still go about your life.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112801 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:22 am to
It’s amazing how many of them are scared to answer that question.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111672 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Why are we treating Covid differently?


Trump.
Periodt.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18099 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:28 am to
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ICU beds are filling. Texas Med center reports 1,362 beds filled, 360 of those were last week. 250 the week before and steady growth for several weeks.

People aren’t checking into ICU’s to score political points. It’s because there’s a highly contagious, potentially deadly virus going around.

Look at ICU hospitalizations.



Less than HALF of those ICU beds are being used by COVID patients. You can probably assume at least 50% of those "covid" patients are not in the ICU due to covid.

You are fake news.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2567 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:29 am to
"lot of the "new" cases are coming in from people who were tested back in Mar/Apr. "

have a very close relative that is an er doc and been working non stop for months

said last two days almost all that came in were covid ......requiring beds and vent.... they already had converted a floor to covid....
he was having to hold them in the er floor...

does not matter if the covid person is 28 or 75.... if he is sick enough to be there and taking a icu bed it is gone and next icu guy in from a car accident etc is getting shuffled around...

Posted by Pooka
Member since Jun 2020
61 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:30 am to
Shutdowns wouldn’t be necessary if people actually did the safety protocols correctly. But based on what I’ve seen, there are too many who refuse to do their part to stop the spread.
So I support shutting down bars right now. And if there is evidence that a 60 day shutdown would work, then yes I would support it. I am not inclined to support a long term shutdown. Having the normal fall semester is my top priority.

FYI - I’ve already gotten Covid, so I’m not worried about myself. But I am very concerned about the at risk population.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111672 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:38 am to
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And if there is evidence that a 60 day shutdown would work, then yes I would support it.


There’s not. Problem solved.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112801 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:44 am to
How would another shutdown work? We have no vaccine. There is no solution in sight. Hiding for two months doesn’t do anything.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:44 am to


Imagine being that naive.
Posted by Pooka
Member since Jun 2020
61 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:48 am to
Acting like this is fake news has definitely not worked.

So we’ll probably just have to suck it up with safety protocols, limited capacity and fines for violations for the rest of the summer.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7182 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:49 am to
You scored a lot of down votes for stating something so true: because of the vagaries associated with “cases,” you need to look more to hospitalizations and fatalities ((which lag a great deal) to get something approaching an accurate picture. Do people really think ICU visits are being faked?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11227 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:49 am to
He has no proof people are or aren't "following the rules" or of the rules are effective so he's just making stuff up at this point like the local Texas governments have been doing.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112801 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:50 am to
You didn’t address my point at all

There’s absolutely no logic behind continuing to hide for a virus that isn’t going away.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112801 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:51 am to
He saw a few clickbait articles about bars that cater to 22 year olds and is adamant no one is following muh rules
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 10:51 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112801 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:52 am to
Hospitalizations have risen in Houston for a month plus and deaths have not nearly followed

Either the ICUs are becoming magical at Covid treatment or they’re likely admitting people in those beds who would recover at home.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11227 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:53 am to
And he's also reading people post online questioning the effectiveness of masks so he assumes everybody is walking into Kroger coughing on everything and screaming at employees for enforcing them lol I have friends like this.
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