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re: The H1-B visa ban is dumb.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:33 pm to LSU316
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:33 pm to LSU316
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Also that figure matched the salary range as set forth by our HR department via a market analysis.
This comment is hilarious. You couldn’t hire an American at the wage you wanted so it is every available candidate that is wrong about their worth in the market.
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:33 pm to laxtonto
I also asked about H2-A's earlier.
I imagine people would be less hardcore when it starts to effect the food on their table.
I imagine people would be less hardcore when it starts to effect the food on their table.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:34 pm to Colonel Flagg
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You couldn’t hire an American at the wage you wanted so it is every available candidate that is wrong about their worth in the market.
Again...did you miss the part where the current employees were mostly America?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:35 pm to Colonel Flagg
Also to all you salary range geniuses out there....market studies aren't done on what candidates ask for it's done on what employees actually get hired at.
Just an FYI.
Just an FYI.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:37 pm to FieldEngineer
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Did you miss where I said most of the current employees were American?
Also that figure matched the salary range as set forth by our HR department via a market analysis.
Americans who were previously screwed by this game.
If you had to hire new employees at the higher wage the market demanded then you would have had to provide a market adjustment to keep your other employees. They would have eventually found out they were underpaid.
The use of the visa program allowed you to anchor current employee earning power for no reason but to save your company money and screw US citizens.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:38 pm to LSU316
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Also to all you salary range geniuses out there....market studies aren't done on what candidates ask for it's done on what employees actually get hired at.
Just an FYI.
It's flawed with the current abuse of the immigration system.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:40 pm to Colonel Flagg
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The use of the visa program allowed you to anchor current employee earning power for no reason but to save your company money and screw US citizens.
I just want to hear him admit that he refused to hire Americans so he could line his own pockets. That way, he can out himself as a piece of shite who games the system of suppressing wages via cheap foreign labor.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:41 pm to Colonel Flagg
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the higher wage the market demanded
It's fairly clear that you don't know how the market works today.
Now if you disagree with how it works today then you can come up with a way to change it, present that to the group, and then we will discuss it.
Until then I don't know what to tell you other than you are wrong.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:42 pm to VADawg
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I just want to hear him admit that he refused to hire Americans so he could line his own pockets.
This never happened....I'd have been happy to hire America if they would work at the market rate.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:43 pm to LSU316
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Now if you disagree with how it works today then you can come up with a way to change it, present that to the group, and then we will discuss it.
Seems like that is an agenda item for Trump.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:45 pm to agregime1
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Immigrant founders founded 44 out of the 100 fortune 100 companies.
Good, but it's not a reason to open the gates during this bad economic time. Besides, the people that are pouring in are not trying to start Fortune 500 companies, they want free stuff.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:45 pm to FieldEngineer
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Seems like that is an agenda item for Trump.
Gonna be hard for him to get legal immigration changes through Congress if he can't even push illegal immigration through....assuming Congress stays the same makeup after the next election...and we know none of these changes will come up prior to Nov. 4
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:47 pm to LSU316
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It's fairly clear that you don't know how the market works today.
What are you saying? You stated you had numerous qualified candidates that all gave feedback that the market must be paying more than you are willing to pay.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:49 pm to Colonel Flagg
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You stated you had numerous qualified candidates that all gave feedback that the market must be paying more than you are willing to pay.
Again that isn't how it works....the market study is done on what people actually get paid not what candidates want...otherwise every job would pay 1,000,000/year.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:54 pm to LSU316
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works....the market study is done on what people actually get paid
And this number stays suppressed because people like you will hire cheap foreign labor instead of equally qualified Americans who may ask for a few thousand more dollars a year.
I get it. You would rather line your own pockets just a tad bit more rather than invest in your country. It's similar to buying a Chinese product for $40 instead of paying $50 for the American made version of the same product. I just want to hear you admit it.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:55 pm to LSU316
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Again that isn't how it works....the market study is done on what people actually get paid not what candidates want...otherwise every job would pay 1,000,000/year.
What?
You just said that qualified candidates would work for $75,000/year. If labor cost become too high then the company dies or innovates. More people will gravitate to the field if the industry is stable and wages increase.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:57 pm to LSU316
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This never happened....I'd have been happy to hire America if they would work at the market rate.
The market rate.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:57 pm to Colonel Flagg
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You just said that qualified candidates would work for $75,000/year.
That is correct...but they aren't employed yet (stay with me). The people that are currently employed in that position (at companies across the area) are working it on average in the 60K-65K range....that's the market salary range.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 2:59 pm to LSU316
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It's fairly clear that you don't know how the market works today.
It’s clear employers lie to access cheap labor, like you.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:00 pm to Turbeauxdog
Never happened.
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