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re: LSU Football Supports Social Justice Reform, BLM

Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:12 am to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:12 am to
Lol imagine a douchebag with so little self awareness that he’s had tickets for 50 years while calling others privileged and racist. This thing has brought the dumbfricks out of the woodwork but you are top 3 without question and let me just assure you that’s quite an achievement.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9133 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:12 am to
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So then why are you so vehemently opposed to giving them a win on a “small issue”?


Man, you refuse to actually comprehend what I'm saying.

On the issue of demilitarizing the police. If that happens, that's a good thing. But there are much larger issues that aren't even being addressed.

All of your energy is on police. Why?

Long story short; shite isn't going to change for the vast majority of blacks until those other variables are changed.

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What have you done to reduce what you perceive as a bigger issue?


All I can really do is talk w/ people when the subject comes up. I even talk to my customers about shite like this.

The problem nowadays is people are too scared to give their views on things face to face, but I do. Haven't lost any customers or friends or family members, so it's not nearly as scary as some people want to believe it is.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48225 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:14 am to
He’s a fraud, a 100% soy sucking Birkenstock’s wearing douchebag fraud. Lol I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, nobody that ignorant has any real world experience.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9133 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:14 am to
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Can I ask you a question? Do y’all believe in privilege? Not necessarily white privilege, just privilege, the idea that some folks, black, white or whatever have advantages that others don’t.


Yes, 100%.

Two parent households are a HUGE privilege. Just being born in America is a huge privilege. Genetics are another one.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3001 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:20 am to
Right. Well, I saw this quote from you:

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If I didn't care about blacks, I'd support abortion, government schools, and welfare programs, which have demolished the black family.


And to be honest my first thought was to respond “this is how I know you’re racist.”

But that’s when I stopped and thought maybe this is more about understanding privilege.
Posted by jadam0613
Member since Mar 2019
260 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:21 am to
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He’s a fraud, a 100% soy sucking Birkenstock’s wearing douchebag fraud. Lol I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, nobody that ignorant has any real world experience.



Please tell me more about my lack of real world experience. I would love to know what you, anonymous TD user know about me, anonymous TD user.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 1:24 am
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9133 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:24 am to
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“this is how I know you’re racist.”


Out of curiosity, what made you think that was racist?

being against abortion means there would be more blacks. Being against government schools means black kids wouldn't be forced into terrible schools. Being against welfare programs means black families would be more likely to be cohesive units and a more stable environment.

No snark intended, just legitimately curious as to why your first thought was "racist".



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But that’s when I stopped and thought maybe this is more about understanding privilege.


It's just the opposite. Me listing those things is because I understand that those things, abortion, government schools, and welfare programs, have overwhelmingly DISADVANTAGED blacks.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48225 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:25 am to
He means that politicians have raped the community. They’ve dismantled the family unit, killed babies by the thousands and used short cons to appease people they already hamstrung creating a nanny state. None of those things are positives that’s why he doesn’t support them. Look in the 50s before the Democrats pulled the bait and switch on the black community, black people had more 2 parent families than whites on average. They also led the nation in new small business ownership. The black community was rising and flourishing. But since the 60s when the black community married the democrat party all those things have been reversed and destroyed. It’s a simple cause and effect scenario, you’re up here, you become exclusive with one party and the decent hasn’t stopped since that union.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 1:30 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79149 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:27 am to
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Understanding privilege


My grandfather fleeing Poland before the rest of his family was incinerated makes me privileged. My great grandmother coming over when a million died in the potato famine makes me privileged. Having a beautiful family because Mrs Pimp got on that boat and fled the Communists makes me privileged. Not dying of an overdose like my only sibling makes me privileged. Having to raise myself from age 12 on makes me privileged. Moving out at age 18 and never being allowed to return home makes me privileged. Losing my life’s savings in my 40s makes me privileged. I could go on.

The point is, Life is suffering. For ALL of us. The human condition ain’t just for American blacks.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9133 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:27 am to
Exactly.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48225 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:29 am to
Oh I’m sorry I wasn’t talking to you just then. You’ll have to go hump someone else’s leg to get attention for that. Maybe next time sport.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3001 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:30 am to
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But that’s when I stopped and thought maybe this is more about understanding privilege.


I do think privilege can cloud your judgment though. It’s hard to see things from someone else’s perspective when you are worlds apart
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79149 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:36 am to
So it’s your privilege that caused you to slur anybody who disagreed with you as a racist ? You weren’t able to see us as individual humans with individual struggles so you placed some amalgamation of phony collective race guilt on us because you are insulated by your relative privilege? I think I understand.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31044 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:39 am to
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So it’s your privilege that caused you to slur anybody who disagreed with you as a racist ?



The guy didn't say that at all. Calm down.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9133 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:39 am to
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I do think privilege can cloud your judgment though. It’s hard to see things from someone else’s perspective when you are worlds apart


In and of itself, I can agree w/ that.

Problem here, though, is we are talking empirical data.

This is why I asked earlier if you have ever really dug into other views on this.

If you dig into the numbers, instead of just looking at the disparities on the surface, you start to get a better picture of things.

For instance; there are more white dudes in prison than black women. I think it's easy to realize that the reason for that isn't due to racism, it's due to the kinds of decisions individuals w/in those groups made.

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79149 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:40 am to
Uh yeah. He did actually. Over and over and over again. The more respectful and reasonable you became, the more he played the race shame game.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31044 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:42 am to
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Over and over and over again. The more respectful and reasonable you became, the more he played the race shame game.



I didn't see that from that one comment but maybe I missed others.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48225 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:42 am to
I hope it doesn’t incite a crazy reaction but the idea of systemic racism is a fairy tale. Aside from the obvious that it’s only been invented recently and with a specific reason which alone proves it lets look at the basic practicality of its inception. To have systemic racism it would mean that our forefathers not only had to invent a new system that worked but also would be perpetually in direct conflict with African American DNA to the point that they would’ve had to predict every black persons decisions 250 years down the road in industries that hadn’t been invented yet. Plus motive, why develop an anti-black system when black people were slaves at the time? I mean the very idea that the country must be infected with this curse because every system of our government was built on it makes literally no sense at all. It’s insane and it’s used because the people who came up with it needed an excuse for the lack of factual evidence. We can’t start from the facts because this virus like system negates any and all data.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 1:48 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79149 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:43 am to
Many , many others.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3001 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 1:45 am to
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Out of curiosity, what made you think that was racist?


My honest, no snark answer is why do you associate those things with black people? Yes, they happen to black people, but they happen to everyone else too. Do we know that these things are big issues for black folks or are these tropes we’ve all heard and continue to believe just because?

For example you’ll often hear the phrase 13% of the people (I.e black people) commit 50% of the crime. Well that’s bull shite. Thirteen percent accounts for every black person in this country. I’ve never committed a non traffic violation crime and I don’t personally know another black person who has. The reality is that like 1% of our society (black and white) do these things and that 1% accounts for most of the crime.
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