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Honest “Educated Gut Feeling”: Who Wins?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:58 am
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:58 am
I never post here, and I haven’t read much on the political forum side outside of scandals and big events, but I obviously need to be an educated adult on this.
I’ve always leaned to the right, and maybe the “mass media” has me brainwashed with Trump’s low approval ratings, but at this point, does he really have a chance at a second term? It doesn’t seem realistic at this point, yet, neither does Biden.
Throw out your bias, political lean and who you WANT to win. Who actually takes the election when the time comes?
(If someone could direct me to legitimate source material that shows the true odds, I’d appreciate it. I can’t allow myself to read the bigs, FOX, CNN, NYT, etc., as I already know their bias.)
I’ve always leaned to the right, and maybe the “mass media” has me brainwashed with Trump’s low approval ratings, but at this point, does he really have a chance at a second term? It doesn’t seem realistic at this point, yet, neither does Biden.
Throw out your bias, political lean and who you WANT to win. Who actually takes the election when the time comes?
(If someone could direct me to legitimate source material that shows the true odds, I’d appreciate it. I can’t allow myself to read the bigs, FOX, CNN, NYT, etc., as I already know their bias.)
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:00 am to okst30
I still think Trump wins, but never count out the effect of white-guilt and self-loathing on a population.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:00 am to SCLibertarian
DJT.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:02 am to okst30
Trump wins. I'm more interested in what bullshite obstruction (muh Russia) they will pull to try to stop/slow him down.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:02 am to okst30
Unless DJT starts shifting the conversation, Biden wins.
Trump needs to start having rallies.
Trump needs to start having rallies.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:03 am to Scruffy
Biden. Women hate Trump, even if they’re conservative.
And mail in ballots.
And mail in ballots.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:03 am to okst30
Trump wins in 2020 but longterm the left wins
The media is just too powerful
The media is just too powerful
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 8:05 am
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:04 am to okst30
Unfortunately, I think Biden wins, the GOP loses the Senate and the Dems retain the house and gain some seats.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:05 am to okst30
The vast majority of "Trump Supporters" are more determined than ever.
The polls aren't accurate, they haven't been accurate since the day he clinched the Republican nomination.
They will try to boombard us with crazy polls and fake news from here to November, don't fall for it
The polls aren't accurate, they haven't been accurate since the day he clinched the Republican nomination.
They will try to boombard us with crazy polls and fake news from here to November, don't fall for it
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:05 am to okst30
The Greatest President in my Lifetime, President Trump 
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:06 am to okst30
Trump wins in a landslide. There will be extreme backlash against covid quarantines, rioters, and cancel culture which despite media projection, the overwhelming majority of people see Trump as fighting against.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:06 am to SCLibertarian
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still think Trump wins, but never count out the effect of white-guilt and self-loathing on a population.
There will be massive voter fraud, thus the MAJOR democrat push for the easily faked mail-in votes and the push to legalize the even more easily faked ballot harvests.
If Trump loses, we know why.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:08 am to okst30
If the Democrats punt and choose a new candidate at their convention, I may be singing a different tune, but I just don’t see it ending well for the Democrats once Biden leaves his basement and gets on stage.
Plus with how tyrannical and vicious the Democrats have become, I really don’t see any reason to vote for Democrats other than “Orange Man Bad”. They’ve completely lost their way. It’s still a long time until November.
Plus with how tyrannical and vicious the Democrats have become, I really don’t see any reason to vote for Democrats other than “Orange Man Bad”. They’ve completely lost their way. It’s still a long time until November.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:08 am to okst30
It will be very close and we will be well into election night before we even have a clue who the winner is.
Both side will allege fraud.
Democrats will be in federal court trying to keep polls open all election night and to keep counting mail in ballots for a month, even ones mailed after the election.
Trump Biden aftermath will make Bush vs Gore look like a tea social.
Both side will allege fraud.
Democrats will be in federal court trying to keep polls open all election night and to keep counting mail in ballots for a month, even ones mailed after the election.
Trump Biden aftermath will make Bush vs Gore look like a tea social.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:09 am to 257WBY
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Biden. Women hate Trump, even if they’re conservative.
But they hate riots and economic collapse even more. Like I don’t like Trump, but what the Democrats are excusing and standing for is much, much worse.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:10 am to SCLibertarian
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I still think Trump wins, but never count out the effect of white-guilt and self-loathing on a population.
I'm seeing a lot of it from who I would normally consider conservative white women
People don't want to admit it but there are a lot of women who despise Trump. They may have held their nose and voted for him in 16 but I don't know that they'll do it again.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:11 am to okst30
50,000 people in 10 counties in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin will decide the election. Whoever picks off 2 of those 3 wins, unless there is a surprise like Minnesota or Virginia flipping.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:13 am to Apollyon
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If Trump loses, we know why.
Yes, we'll know why.
He's done a terrible job and his last ~3 months have been disastrous.
If the election were today, Biden would win in a landslide.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:15 am to Powerman
The whole election is white women.
Can Trump improve his numbers enough with white women.
These women respond to emotional arguments not rational or fact based ones.
They are also heavily influenced by the social media mob.
Hopefully Team Trump has been scouring the country for unregistered white males.
Can Trump improve his numbers enough with white women.
These women respond to emotional arguments not rational or fact based ones.
They are also heavily influenced by the social media mob.
Hopefully Team Trump has been scouring the country for unregistered white males.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:15 am to okst30
If Biden beats Trump, we're going to hell in a handbasket.
Biden doesn't fire up the base like Trump fires up his base. The only people eager to vote for Biden only want Trump gone. The middle of the road voters aren't going to get out to vote for Biden. He's blatantly a panderer and nowhere near sincere.
Trump doesn't sound sincere often but we have 4 years of his leadership to know where he lands on issues and what he will do performance-wise.
Trumps 2016 win proved that the economy was the number one concern on American's minds. And there's no way with this pandemic you're going to hand the keys to the blind/drunk/moron to drive this economy.
My $.02 is that Trump has made a couple of bad statements through this protesting and looting thing which isn't good, but I doubt it'll move the needle much during the election. There's too much time to forget between now and the election. The people protesting are just the squeaky wheel, and they're only getting squeakier. The other wheels are the silent majority.
Biden doesn't fire up the base like Trump fires up his base. The only people eager to vote for Biden only want Trump gone. The middle of the road voters aren't going to get out to vote for Biden. He's blatantly a panderer and nowhere near sincere.
Trump doesn't sound sincere often but we have 4 years of his leadership to know where he lands on issues and what he will do performance-wise.
Trumps 2016 win proved that the economy was the number one concern on American's minds. And there's no way with this pandemic you're going to hand the keys to the blind/drunk/moron to drive this economy.
My $.02 is that Trump has made a couple of bad statements through this protesting and looting thing which isn't good, but I doubt it'll move the needle much during the election. There's too much time to forget between now and the election. The people protesting are just the squeaky wheel, and they're only getting squeakier. The other wheels are the silent majority.
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