re: The dad knew Ahmaud previously

I'm talking about the grown arse man that was being referred to as a kid.

Can you not read or are you being intentionally obtuse?

it would explain more why he suspected the kid and was stupid enough to chase after the dude with a shotgun

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Ahmaud Arbery was not a jogger

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Yet he was clearly jogging

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He was probably committing petty theft from the unattended property.

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You 'probably' know that there 'definitely' is NO evidence of this, nor was there any evidence of it when the McRednecks decided to round up a posse and cut him off at the pass

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The father and the son were not the police. 

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Would have been nice had they comprehended that notion.

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There is no way to justify this shooting.

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Correct

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he only thing in question is what degree of murder to charge the son and father with.

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Murder in the first or whatever is the most egregious murder charge in Georgia

"Greg McMichael, who provided gun cover for his son"
Fact or opinion?

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These two idiots fricked up and murdered this guy. That was not self defense. The son committed first degree murder.

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Well, well, what've we got here? More damning video released of your hero Ahmaud Arbery making an unathorized (and unlawful) entry into, what appears to be, a home under construction. You can see Mr.Arbery enter through the garage, and make a hasty exit out the front door. He gets caught and they chase him out the house. Mr.Arbery proceeds to "haul-arse" down the street out of that neighborhood in the most expeditious means possible. He definitely wasn't just out for a leasurely jog some have said. Whereupon it appears Travis & Greg McMichael make an effort to detain him long enough for the PO PO to arrive. We know they appear to be trying to detain Arbery, since on the video we observe the neighbor across the street from the house Trayvon (excuse me Ahmaud) on his phone calling 911 to report a crime in progress. The PO PO confirmed receiving a call during this time.

Unfortunately Mr. Arbery doesn't want to be detained since he is now a suspect leaving the scene of a crime. Not exactly breaking-in but definitely entering said house under construction. He (Mr.Arbery) charges Travis McMichael and the son is forced to defend himself. During the ensuing scuffle the son shoots and kills said suspect. Not a good ending to a wasted life.

It's all on film. No "onsite execution"......no racially motivated hit job by two "redneck, white trailer trash, low IQ White Males of European origin". Mr.Arbery charged Travis McMichael and the son was forced to use lethal force to protect himself. Bottom line.....open and shut case....self-defense. Just another petty career criminal who made a bad bad decision and it cost him his life.

Fire away............Ahmaud Arbery fans.

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The dad knew Ahmaud previously

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WTF difference does that make legally? Georgia law clearly requires vigilantes to witness this person committing a felony and their self-defense claim fails on its face because they were clearly the aggressors here. This is all irrelevant bullshite.

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this new "information" really has no bearing on the murder case it only has bearing on the whole "holy shite this prosecutor's office should face consequences" case

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Let's be honest, unless the venue where this trial is held is the most biased of all-time a la A Time to Kill, these two aren't getting away with this in a court of law, at most murder at least voluntary manslaughter it is what it is

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the shooting was inappropriate and not called for.

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Under Georgia law it wasn't a lawful citizen's arrest and at most murder and at least voluntary manslaughter there's no argument against this no defense, res ipsa loquitur it speaks for itself

There are already enough circumstances to hang a jury up on Murder. And bias will be against thievery, not against skin color.

I do think the father and son are complete doofuses, and am not condoning what they did; this is just the reality of the situation.

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There are already enough circumstances to hang a jury up on Murder.

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Probably that's why I said "at most," genius

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And bias will be against thievery, not against skin color.

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Because it all depends on whether they witnessed him commit a felony, if they don't their defense won't exist

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this is just the reality of the situation.

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The reality is most likely these redneck vigilantes operated above and beyond the law, violated the law, and at most murdered a person, there's no argument against that, just accept it. This is all indisputable so far.