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Interesting stats on how CV19 doesn't affect kids.

Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:28 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:28 pm
Thought I would dive into a rabbit hole and see how this thing affects kids. It's rather interesting. The CDC said only 1.7% of the cases are under the age of 18. The CDC examined data in 14 states and said the hospitalization rate was only 0.3% for children.

Looking at some states seems to bear that out. Take a look.

Louisiana
Cases: 342
Deaths: 1
% of Cases: 1.25%
% of Deaths: 0%

Florida
Cases 0-15 years: 514
Hospitalizations: 16
Deaths: 0
% of Hospitalizations: 2%
% of Cases: 2%
% of Deaths: 0

Good ole Mississippi
Cases: 197
Hospitalizations: 8
Deaths: 0
% of overall cases: 3%
% of Deaths: 0
% of Hospitalizations: 0.7%

Michigan
Cases: 2%
Deaths: 0%

Texas
189 cases
0 Deaths
% of Cases: 3.7%

Then there is Italy. Believe it or not, children fared fairley well in Italy.
Cases: 1.8%
Deaths: 0.1%

The CDC said in a report that examined data through April 2:
2,572 (1.7%) occurred in children aged <18 years

So......

when do we quit freaking out about kids playing together? Better yet, when do we start discussing ways to put them back in school?



Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
46343 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:30 pm to
Is the Louisiana death the premature baby that tested negative?
I’ve read conflicting stories on how it would be counted
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28363 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:31 pm to
These illnesses are odd. The Spanish flu only attacked healthy people.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:32 pm to
The one death in LA was a 20week preterm baby who mom had covid. The baby did not have covid
Posted by YawBaw7
Your Mom's house
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:32 pm to
Thymus baw
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
There’s early studies out there that suggest it may be causing something else in kids. Saw in the news today.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
171080 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

when do we quit freaking out about kids playing together? Better yet, when do we start discussing ways to put them back in school?


You know the risk isn't just the kids health right? It's about the spread.

I'm not saying we shouldn't open back up, I'm just correcting your horrible logic.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20807 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:35 pm to
My God could you imagine the Karens if this virus affected kids? We’d all be under house arrest.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:36 pm to
The entire point of kids being "socially distanced" is the idea that they can be infected just as readily and spread it around.

So, a school could mean not one kid gets sick and dies but tons of them spread it around and bring it back home to all their families.


Perhaps that's not true but it's different stats than what you post which would show it.

To convince people about school's re-opening, we don't need opinions but high volume tests of kids to possibly reveal something like this:

For example: "5K kids that were in households with Covid+ person were tested and only 4% tested positive as non-symptomatic carriers. "


This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64236 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:37 pm to
Kids are vectors for the parents and grandparents.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Interesting stats on how CV19 doesn't affect kids


It’s not about protecting the kids

It’s about controlling the spread

Why aren’t people grasping this yet?
Posted by wickowick
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:41 pm to
Have they started doing antibody studies on kids? I bet they are walking around spreading it with no symptoms
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

The CDC said in a report that examined data through April 2:
2,572 (1.7%) occurred in children aged <18 years
According to the CDC, during the 2017-2018 flu season, one of the worst in decades (over 61,000 deaths), there were 11,190,943 symptomatic infections and 643 deaths for those under 18.

So that is 1 death per 17,404 symptomatic infections in one of the deadly flu seasons in decades, 40% more deadly than the average flu season fatality rate estimate (0.14% vs. 0.1%).

Since NYC has detailed information regarding cases and deaths as well as the most reliable study on antibodies (to estimate the true number of infections). We know that they’ve had 5 deaths under 18 out of 3,555 cases, or 1 1 out of every 711 cases.

Since the antibody study indicates that the infections rate (24.7%) is about 13.16 times the case totals (1.88%), that extrapolates to about 46,768 infections for those under 18, or 1 out of 9,354 infections.

And considering that schools have been closed, which limits the primary vector for spread amongst that group, particularly the truly vulnerable (e.g., compromised immune system) my guess is that those under 18 are probably far less likely to have gotten infected than those 18 + (say 25 to 50 percent), which puts their fatalities at 1 out of every 2,338 to 4,677, which 3.7 to 7.4 times more deadly than the one of the most deadly flu season in decades, and 5 to 10 more deadly than the average seasonal flu.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Crazytrain69
Gonzales, LA
Member since Mar 2020
109 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:17 pm to
It’s basically May. They aren’t going back to school until fall.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:25 pm to
I didn't have to look at any report. If this affected kids at all, dead kids would be on the news ever night, with the media blaming Trump.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3170 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:41 am to
I thought it was shown that it mainly was a concern with the elderly and those with underlying health conditions. Young healthy kids would naturally be less likely to be tested or hospitalized.

Am I missing something here? What is so shockingly interesting.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1506 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:31 am to
We know that immune systems develop due to exposure to viruses among other things. Each virus an immune system is exposed to imprints that immune system with the method of destroying that virus. BUT, the imprinted immune system recognition of a new virus is critical. The theory is that immune systems are mistaking the Covid-19 virus for another virus the immune system was exposed to earlier. In this case, people under the age of 18 are not contracting this virus. Could it be that people older than 18 were exposed to a different virus over 18 years ago and their immune systems are mistaking Covid-19 for this earlier virus?

This is the theory as to what happened in the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. The global data shows that not only were younger healthy people dying at a greater rate, but there was a significant spike of deaths for people who were 28 years old. In 1890, 28 years prior, there was another less lethal global flu outbreak. This was called the ‘Russian flu’. Could it be that infant’s immune systems were imprinted with the correct response for this Russian flu and later were somehow mistaking the Spanish flu for the Russian flu? Thus the lack of immune progress against the Spanish flu and resulting cytokine storm.

So following this rabbit hole, could it be that people today older than 18 have immune systems imprinted by pre-2002 viruses which are mistaking the Covid-19 for the earlier virus? Thus the ineffectiveness of their immune systems. But if so, why no cytokine storm reports presently? And critically to the point, the immune systems of people born in 2002 or after would not have been imprinted with the wrong virus. Thus the wrong immune response is not present in their systems. Of course, that would mean that the correct immune response IS present in their systems…
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