re: the Covid hype is / was nothing more than political propaganda

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directly injecting Lysol into the lungs

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BrutalBengal want to be the guinea pig?

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More so than injecting Lysol to the lungs? Man, I should see if there are special parking spots for people like me. Thanks for the heads up.

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*sigh*

Same situation with the “hoax” comment.

Trump’s handling of this situation has been demonstrably wrong from the minute he recommended shutting everything down.

There is more than enough to point out that he did incorrectly and negative consequences that he caused without having to resort to quips about stupid statements he had made.

Same thing with people giving Pelosi shite for having a freezer full of expensive ice cream.

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We may have overreacted a bit, but I think given the lack of info and knowledge that we had at the time the lockdown was necessary. Further lockdown is not, outside of maybe New York City,though I'm on board with preventative measures to try to control the rate of spread as we reopen

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How did you not see that it would come to people playing political games to keep things shutdown or refusing to give up the temporary powers they gained?

This was the inevitable outcome.

The minute we shutdown for a “couple weeks” it was inevitably going to be extended, even without justification.

Don’t be surprised when JBE and others either extend the shutdown further or shut things down again.

Y’all wanted them to have this power.

Now they have it.

I was on board with the first extension as well. That hasn't changed.


Of course there will be political games. Given the early models and numbers of death that were being touted, I think it was a no-brainer to shut down to prevent many deaths. Of course it's easy to look back now and say we overreacted, but it wasn't such an easy thing to say at the time. I believe you were always on the side of staying open, but there was really not enough data there for most leaders to feel comfortable leaving everything open. if the imperial college numbers would have turned out to be correct and we didn't shut everything down, it would have been hell.

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if the imperial college numbers would have turned out to be correct and we didn't shut everything down, it would have been hell.

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Yes, that is understandable, but the course of action we chose WILL be hell and may have even worse repercussions, already having abysmal repercussions.

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I believe you were always on the side of staying open, but there was really not enough data there for most leaders to feel comfortable leaving everything open.

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And this is the absolute false “one or zero” dichotomy that y’all keep heaping onto those of us who believed we chose poorly.

It was never a one or zero game, no matter how much y’all believe it was.

There is an infinite number of actions/mitigation effects we could have chosen between “leave everything open” and the asinine “shut everything down”.

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Yes, that is understandable, but the course of action we chose will be hell and may have even worse repercussions, already having abysmal repercussions.

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Worse than the early worst case scenario predictions? We really have no way to know. There would have been a huge economic impact without shutting everything down if it really got that bad. All of the people that died, people in hospitals, people not going anywhere because they don't want to contract the virus, working from home or not working at all, there's so many variables that it's really near impossible to know what the impact would have been if we stayed open. we don't even know how bad the infection rate would have been to really even guess about the economic impact. It's probably unlikely that it would be as bad as a shutdown has been, but then you'd be talking about a very significant economic impact and a very significant death and illness impact. Can you really say that that's any better?

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this is the absolute false “one or zero” dichotomy that y’all keep heaping onto those of us who believed we chose poorly. 

It was never a one or zero game, no matter how much y’all believe it was. 

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Oh I absolutely agree, there are plenty of mitigative actions we could have taken that didn't involve a complete shutdown. But there was also no way to know what the impact of those would have been and if it would have been enough. In hindsight yes it probably would have been the majority of our country, save maybe New York City, but that's a large risk for a leader to undertake especially in the current political climate and media hype.

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God the OT is slowly turning into PT lite

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Yes, it has but that's only because we're all so directly affected by the political decisions right now. It's hard to talk about the tits on the bum on the corner of Bluebonnet and Perkins whenever we're all stuck at home for the majority of day.

Hard to bitch about work when many are unemployed or furloughed.

I could go on but you get the point.

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Hulkklogan

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I think I disagree with most of your overall political outlooks (from previous post) but you make solid points here.

We're trying to compare a known with an unknown, that's impossible. We're comparing what happened vs. what may have happened.