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Why the stock market is nowhere near the bottom

Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:59 pm
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1220 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:59 pm
Opinion: Why the stock market is nowhere near a bottom and investors can expect a massive hit

From MarketWatch

It’s best to be in cash right now. I’ve lived through a few of these things, and it’s always a surprise how slow the market is to adjust to reality
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2922 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:06 pm to
So, back it up..what are you shorting and how much $$$..if not 25K+..BS
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19361 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

It’s best to be in cash right now.

Is it?
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
780 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:37 pm to
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So, back it up..what are you shorting and how much $$$..if not 25K+..BS


This place has really gone to shite.
Posted by Ingloriousbastard
Member since May 2015
917 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:38 pm to
You’ve lived through a few of these and you didn’t buy when prices were low?
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13381 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:47 pm to
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It’s best to be in cash right now.

Hmmm. I'm up 14% so far on buying about 15 different stocks over the last month. Understanding there's more to come down in some sectors, but maybe not in others, I'm thinking investing some of my cash was the right move so far. Imagine how much higher that $ is going to be in 5 years.

ETA: I have more cash sitting in TDA ready to go for any nice dips
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
88966 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

So, back it up..what are you shorting and how much $$$..if not 25K+..BS




Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12685 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:49 pm to
Could be right, although you could also find a bunch of articles taking the other side of this. Who really knows? I sure as hell aint smart enough to figure it out.

Earnings will be brutal and I expect that there will be bankruptcies and dividend cuts. If there was a return to normal/end game visible I could see asset prices being supported and going up. I just don't see that yet.

Having liquid cash and being debt free is the way to go.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
88966 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:50 pm to
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I have more cash sitting in TDA ready to go for any nice dips




same here. just made a fat deposit today in my TDA account.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13381 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 11:47 pm to

I’ve infused some new fresh money and will continue to at these discount prices.
Posted by ScrapPack
Member since Nov 2011
3707 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 11:48 pm to
I'm up over 100% the last 3 weeks trading only energy stocks.
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2914 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:07 am to
Everything points to this being a dead cat bounce. Earnings will come our, and they will be horrible. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get back down to 20,000.

But once the first round of shitty earnings is out in the open we will be free and clear.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:12 am to
This situation is really not similar at all to everything that you "have lived through".

Its impossible to say what is going to happen
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14561 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:41 am to
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It’s best to be in cash right now. I’ve lived through a few of these things, and it’s always a surprise how slow the market is to adjust to reality


You’ve lived through the fed injecting trillions of dollars into the economy, opening up every lending window possible, essentially guaranteeing agency loans, the federal government paying for employers to employ workers for weeks at a time and the federal government kicking in an extra $600 a week for those that lose their jobs? When was this and how did it work out?
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14561 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:48 am to
quote:

You’ve lived through a few of these and you didn’t buy when prices were low?


I think he’s suggesting prices are going lower.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14561 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:56 am to
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Everything points to this being a dead cat bounce. Earnings will come our, and they will be horrible. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get back down to 20,000. But once the first round of shitty earnings is out in the open we will be free and clear.


What about this makes anyone think history is a good indicator of how this market will perform in this current environment?

We announced a jobless claim of more than six million and the market skyrocketed that day. Any other time in history that would have happened and it would have resulted in a crash that would have made the 1987 crash look like a fender bender.

Everyone has been preaching for weeks to flatten the curve for health and economic crisis to start getting better. We essentially flattened the curve late last week and over the weekend and the market fell over 1% yesterday.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4880 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 7:30 am to
So your link is willing to take into account lowered earnings forecast into the P/E ratio but it’s not willing to take into account a higher valuation is understandable given that the 10yr treasury is below 1%?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46465 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:04 am to
quote:

the stock market

frick the indexes/averages...follow the growth stocks some of which are trading at or bear all-time highs. what difference does it make if the S&P or DJIA is down if the stocks you hold are up?
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13614 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:14 am to
Friend,

This is why, in my opinion, the best place to park your cash right now is in almsgiving to your local church. To me, your local church needs the money the most. No other charity is a better repository for Truth, charity, and art. The West declines with the Church's decline.

This downturn allowed me to profit, so now I'm putting that profit where it belongs.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12795 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:19 am to
Friend,

I write to you with bewitchment. It would behoove such persons in due diligence to invest now in the market and lay up their treasures in heaven according to the Word of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, for whom I beseech thee with all His praise glory and honor. Let this word be a testament to the good things the Lord has done for me and I encourage not the forsaking of tithes and rendering unto Caesar that which is rightfully his. I charge thee with these little ones confidences not to belittle their work, for the talents are few and they must endeavor with their labors accordingly and satisfactorily.

Sincerely,

DIAMOND D.
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