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re: There’s no way we have as many deaths as being reported
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:40 am to the808bass
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:40 am to the808bass
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I’m not asking you to recognize it.
shouldn't laugh at this but I did
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:51 am to frogglet
I saw drone footage of on twitter yesterday. I had no idea that they do that in NYC. I think it said the time to claim a body was decreased from a month to 14 days to claim a body or it goes to a mass grave
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:53 am to frogglet
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Just to get a sense of what they are going through right now, I saw this story about NY having to make much more use out of a mass burial site for unclaimed bodies.
LINK
Apparently they are going from burying about 25 per week there to 25 per day so far.
Well, the normal death rate is 100+ a day, if they are shutting everything down... well, no surprise there... bodies will be piling up as relatives are sitting at home eating chips.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:00 am to 90proofprofessional
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assume you saw the thing a few days back about a roughly-tenfold spike in daily NYC deaths at home, which go untested, and coincide with the high number of daily CV deaths?
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2019 vs 2020 paramedics reports; COUNT_83 represents calls where they were reported dead on-arrival
I read that and think that a lot of people are dying of things they might survive (like heart attacks) because our response to COVID has them unwilling or unable to seek medical care.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:10 am to uway
it's a theory, i guess.
but how do you square it with the fact that total calls also skyrocketed
but how do you square it with the fact that total calls also skyrocketed
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:13 am to uway
If you look at the death rate trend it suggest at least half of the CV deaths are bogus.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:13 am to uway
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I read that and think that a lot of people are dying of things they might survive (like heart attacks) because our response to COVID has them unwilling or unable to seek medical care.
That’s probably a certainty
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:14 am to uway
I'm sure that will be a some part of it, but at-home deaths have grown exponentially lock in step with total daily death rates in NYC. The graphs look identical. I don't know how else to explain that
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:15 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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maybe non-existent.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:17 am to BHS78
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Bullsh**, heart attack cases are down over 40%
I think he asked what hopsital that guy worked for
What hospital do you work for?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:18 am to DyeHardDylan
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Basically no one is dying of heart attacks or strokes anymore. Hospitals are fudging the numbers and claiming deaths are due to Covid-19 to get a bigger payout.
Yea, everybody was in on it! I knew you would figure it out sooner or later. April Fools dude, we got you!
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:19 am to ClampClampington
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I'm sure that will be a some part of it, but at-home deaths have grown exponentially lock in step with total daily death rates in NYC. The graphs look identical. I don't know how else to explain that
I am not trying to say people are artificially inflating the COVID totals, but it is a very safe assumption that a substantial proportion of things that would have occurred in hospitals 3 months ago now are now happening somewhere else.
If they are counting all non-trauma deaths that occur at home as COVID deaths, then the COVID death numbers are inflated.
This would be offset by COVID deaths that go uncounted, but the only way I see that happening is people that don't get found for awhile. At which point they will be counted.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 11:22 am
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:24 am to uway
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If they are counting all non-trauma deaths that occur at home as COVID deaths,
Where are they doing that?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:24 am to MOT
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https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=89187360&b=50&s=1&p=88971276
Of course, from the person that thought the medical system was going to be overwhelmed.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=89347801&b=50&s=1&p=89344239
Oh and implying 100-200k deaths.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 11:29 am
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:26 am to uway
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If they are counting all non-trauma deaths that occur at home as COVID deaths
Except that isn’t happening
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:27 am to uway
Right, like I said avoiding hospitals is definitely a part of it. But why have at-home deaths increased 100% in the past 8 days (last daily figure I saw was 292 a few days ago)?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:33 am to Antonio Moss
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except that isn't happening
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The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner (OCME) and the NYC Health Department are working together to include into their reports deaths that may be linked to COVID but not lab confirmed that occur at home," she said.
Reading that, and the rest of the article, I assume that a first responder coming on a dead person without signs of trauma would report it, and it would be counted as a COVID death. What am I missing?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:35 am to ClampClampington
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Right, like I said avoiding hospitals is definitely a part of it. But why have at-home deaths increased 100% in the past 8 days (last daily figure I saw was 292 a few days ago)?
What is the effective rate of the test? i.e. false positives is a possibility, among many other possibilities. Does the test even work?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:35 am to uway
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What am I missing?
The conditions that are leading them to "work together to including in their reports deaths that may be linked to COVID" in the future, apparently.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:38 am to uway
Being DRT doesn’t equal a Covid linkage.
There’s no financial incentive for the OCME to pad New York’s lead over the rest of the country.
There’s no financial incentive for the OCME to pad New York’s lead over the rest of the country.
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