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re: There’s no way we have as many deaths as being reported
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:40 pm to LSU Patrick
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:40 pm to LSU Patrick
Surge in At-Home Deaths in NYC
NYC has recently averaged 250 at-home deaths per day, up from 25/day prior to COVID. Obviously not all at-home deaths are due to COVID, but De Blasio said today that they are in the process of incorporating those numbers because most haven't been included in the official death numbers
NYC has recently averaged 250 at-home deaths per day, up from 25/day prior to COVID. Obviously not all at-home deaths are due to COVID, but De Blasio said today that they are in the process of incorporating those numbers because most haven't been included in the official death numbers
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 7:43 pm
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:41 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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True, but we reasonable know how many unemployment claims were filed.
No one was financially incentivized to say they were unemployed when they actually weren’t unemployed. Right?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:42 pm to DyeHardDylan
Man gets struck by truck but has Covid-19. It's Covid-19's fault.
Woman gets shot but has Covid-19. It's Covid-19's fault.
Man gets hit by lighting but has Covid-19. It's Covid-19's fault.
This is like the 2020's version of "You might be a red neck".
Woman gets shot but has Covid-19. It's Covid-19's fault.
Man gets hit by lighting but has Covid-19. It's Covid-19's fault.
This is like the 2020's version of "You might be a red neck".
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:43 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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True, but we reasonable know how many unemployment claims were filed.
Gotta bump those numbers up!
Companies are “firing” employees to take advantage of the benefits and are gonna rehire them immediately!
It’s a hoax!
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:48 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
We most likely have more deaths than reported.
Can't have more than total deaths.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:48 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
None of that is false.
It just has nothing to do with the high probability that more people have died of COVID than being reported
It just has nothing to do with the high probability that more people have died of COVID than being reported
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:50 pm to Chrome
quote:
Man gets struck by truck but has Covid-19. It's Covid-19's fault.
Woman gets shot but has Covid-19. It's Covid-19's fault.
Man gets hit by lighting but has Covid-19. It's Covid-19's fault.
None of this true.
But this board has become a haven for people who fabricate things out of thin air and then declare it fact.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:51 pm to imjustafatkid
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Can't have more than total deaths.
Are you joking?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:54 pm to DyeHardDylan
quote:This keep getting parroted on this board, yet no one has been able to provide data to back it up. The reason for this is most likely because such data is typically not available until months to years after the fact.
Basically no one is dying of heart attacks or strokes anymore.
Where are you guys getting this fake news?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:57 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:59 pm to DyeHardDylan
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Hospitals are fudging the numbers and claiming deaths are due to Covid-19 to get a bigger payout
The cause of death form now states if they "believe" Corona had an impact to list it as cause of death.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:06 pm to Korkstand
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Where are you guys getting this fake news?
There was an anecdotal report (it may have been an op-Ed but I’m not sure) entitled “Where have all the heart attacks gone?” by a doctor in NY saying that his ER was seeing a reduced amount of heart attacks and strokes during this COVID pandemic. There were no statistics involved, it was purely observational. It involved a single hospital in NYC.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The New York Times
So the one time you trust the NYT, it's a fluff piece with no actual data. Just anecdotes and a very limited bit of data from Spain. That's about right.
It even suggest the most plausible explanation for the perceived drop in heart attacks, and that is people are avoiding hospitals.
Anyway, I fully expect to see this talking point repeated ad nauseam for the next year or two until the actual data is available. And then after the data shows an insignificant change in the number of heart attacks, the nuts will say the data is faked.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:15 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Yeah I believe that's what SFP linked above. The entire article was based on the anecdotal report and a fricking Twitter poll.
There was an anecdotal report (it may have been an op-Ed but I’m not sure) entitled “Where have all the heart attacks gone?” by a doctor in NY saying that his ER was seeing a reduced amount of heart attacks and strokes during this COVID pandemic. There were no statistics involved, it was purely observational. It involved a single hospital in NYC.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:23 pm to Antonio Moss
I assume you saw the thing a few days back about a roughly-tenfold spike in daily NYC deaths at home, which go untested, and coincide with the high number of daily CV deaths?
2019 vs 2020 paramedics reports; COUNT_83 represents calls where they were reported dead on-arrival
2019 vs 2020 paramedics reports; COUNT_83 represents calls where they were reported dead on-arrival
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:25 pm to DyeHardDylan
quote:How much more are they getting and where from?
Hospitals are fudging the numbers and claiming deaths are due to Covid-19 to get a bigger payout.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:28 pm to tiger91
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I texted asking a few questions -- like did ANYONE check your pulse ox? Did ANYONE think that was a good idea?
That is one of the issues, you have to do blood gas to get a legit SPO2. A pulse ox won’t give you a legit number.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:33 pm to rds dc
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Global Deaths - 95,678, nCFR 6%
US Deaths - 16,684, nCFR 3.6%
So? The flu kills an estimated 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide every year.
We're not quite a third of the way to a really mild flu season and only 550,000 deaths short of the worst flu years. Shut it down each flu season?
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:45 pm to Govt Tide
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So? The flu kills an estimated 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide every year.
We're not quite a third of the way to a really mild flu season and only 550,000 deaths short of the worst flu years. Shut it down each flu season?
As predicted, morons will compare covid deaths under extreme precautionary measures to typical flu death numbers and ask what was the point.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:47 pm to Korkstand
We all gunna die!
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