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Nobody reads. The graph left out the dead and icu

Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:49 am
Posted by geauxtigersyall
Member since Dec 2018
34 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:49 am
The results of the hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin study look great because the researchers excluded the dead and hospitalized whom the drug didn't work on.

LINK

"Six hydroxychloroquine-treated patients
were lost in follow-up during the survey because of early cessation of treatment. Reasons are
as follows: three patients were transferred to intensive care unit, including one transferred on
day2 post-inclusion who was PCR-positive on day1, one transferred on day3 post-inclusion
who was PCR-positive on days1-2 and one transferred on day4 post-inclusion who was PCR-
positive on day1 and day3; one patient died on day3 post inclusion and was PCR-negative on
day2; one patient decided to leave the hospital on day3 post-inclusion and was PCR-negative
on days1-2; finally, one patient stopped the treatment on day3 post-inclusion because of nausea
and was PCR-positive on days1-2-3."
Posted by SevenLinesofPine
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
746 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:51 am to
Go away.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91579 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:51 am to
frick off
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:52 am to
Welp... that's it... lets give up on it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154616 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:52 am to
quote:

one patient stopped the treatment on day3 post-inclusion because of nausea and was PCR-positive on days1-2-3


Quit because he was nauseous doesn’t necessarily mean it didn’t work.


I think we all understand that this is TBD but if it works on some then why not? It’s cheap.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:52 am to
quote:

SevenLinesofPine
quote:

go away


That might just be the most coherent statement you've ever typed.
Posted by PrinceVegeta
Fourchon Beach
Member since Nov 2014
474 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:52 am to
In b4 seething boomers try to shoot down this anecdotal study
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51931 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:53 am to
Paragraphs / spacing would be nice

Is it helping anyone?
Yes...therefore it is great because there are no other options
Other options are still being worked on & tested

It’s like you’re mad that it helped a few people
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42183 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:53 am to
It seems that you are really enjoying this. I feel sorry for your potential future ex.
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5870 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:53 am to
I've seen this exact text posted a few days ago.

If this is the worst example available that is a good sign.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88788 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:53 am to
How old were they?

The big hurdle is ICU space and overcrowding of hospitals in general. If the drug can keep relatively healthy/younger people with a bit of underlying conditions from getting so sick they’re taking up bed space, it’s a win, right?

It doesn’t necessarily have to be saving everyone’s(especially very old people’s) lives.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5065 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:54 am to
People are dying without treatment.

Better not treat them though because the treatment might not work.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 9:54 am
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26915 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:55 am to
You are a stain on us generic geaux tiger names
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:55 am to
Well I got hemorrhoids but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop eating so I don't shite.

I hope you understand.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

The results of the hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin study look great because the researchers excluded the dead and hospitalized whom the drug didn't work on.

LINK

"Six hydroxychloroquine-treated patients
were lost in follow-up during the survey because of early cessation of treatment. Reasons are
as follows: three patients were transferred to intensive care unit, including one transferred on
day2 post-inclusion who was PCR-positive on day1, one transferred on day3 post-inclusion
who was PCR-positive on days1-2 and one transferred on day4 post-inclusion who was PCR-
positive on day1 and day3; one patient died on day3 post inclusion and was PCR-negative on
day2; one patient decided to leave the hospital on day3 post-inclusion and was PCR-negative
on days1-2; finally, one patient stopped the treatment on day3 post-inclusion because of nausea
and was PCR-positive on days1-2-3."



You can't scientifically say the drug didn't work because they were transferred and stopped taking the drug. If their treatment continued they may have gotten better. It takes up to 5 or 6 days for it to completely work. So at best these folks get an "incomplete", which they did in the study.

But continue to be a dumbass.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12248 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:57 am to
Why people don’t understand the idea that if a hospital runs out of supplies/ventilators is bad is beyond me
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91579 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:58 am to
quote:

But continue to be a dumbass.


copy/paste from DU

more like DUH amirite?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20775 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:06 am to
So we should give up on a treatment because once someone makes it to ICU, or dies, it won't help them.

What does the data say if we are able to get the medication to them before them make it to ICU, or death?
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15910 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:06 am to
The Chinese tested hundreds of drugs against this virus and end of February settled on this drug.

South Korea had been using this drug for treatment.

I'm sorta unsure when there best time for in the course of illness is. Whether it is early before you have difficulty breathing it should you wait to see if you start getting there and then take it. I'm not sure if the dose either. And yes, I'm not 100 percent sure if it works.

But my suspicions are yes it likely helps. So if normally 20 percent of patients need to be hospitalized and like 8 percent need ICU level care, if we drop that number to 10 percent need to be hospitalized and 4 percent need ICU care, that in numbers is a huge deal. Also if necessary time if hospitalization decreases from 8 days to five days, that is a huge deal.

In percent done people would save well it only keeps 10 percent from having to go to hospital. But you have halved the number that goes. Similar thing when it comes to number in the ICU.

Anyways if it does work like that that is a curve flattener. And recoveries speed up as well.

I'm not sure where this is going to go but I'm hoping it is something like that. It may seem like not a huge thing depending on how you look at it but it may be a massive change on how it effects healthcare.

Anyways, here's to hoping!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42183 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:12 am to
quote:

geauxtigersyall


34 posts since December of 2018. What poster is using this BS alter.
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