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I Heard Two Interesting Positions on NPR Today; Do People Not Have Savings Anymore?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:20 pm
The guest (female economist, can't remember her name) used to work for the Obama administration, so I already expected to hear some left-of-center viewpoints, but she was arguing that tax cuts preferred by Trump are not the way to go because they fail to benefit those who have lost their jobs or didn't pay taxes to begin with.
Her second point was that people need the (in my opinion negligble) $1,000 proposed cash sum immediately because they are really hurting right now (after a mere 2 weeks into this "crisis").
I was always taught to make sure you have enough savings to live for 3-6 months without steady income. This is exactly what my wife and I made a point to save. I guess this means we had to forgo some of the luxuries other people our age indulge in, but it was more important to feel secure, and I can guarantee we don't miss having a new $1,200 iPhone every year, or a 75-inch TV, or whatever the average consumer is spending their 'disposable' income on.
My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved? If so, I think that speaks volumes about the state this nation is really in.
God forbid we have an actual crisis. These people would be living in the woods and eating sticks.
Her second point was that people need the (in my opinion negligble) $1,000 proposed cash sum immediately because they are really hurting right now (after a mere 2 weeks into this "crisis").
I was always taught to make sure you have enough savings to live for 3-6 months without steady income. This is exactly what my wife and I made a point to save. I guess this means we had to forgo some of the luxuries other people our age indulge in, but it was more important to feel secure, and I can guarantee we don't miss having a new $1,200 iPhone every year, or a 75-inch TV, or whatever the average consumer is spending their 'disposable' income on.
My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved? If so, I think that speaks volumes about the state this nation is really in.
God forbid we have an actual crisis. These people would be living in the woods and eating sticks.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:22 pm to Caddeaux
Until 2 years ago, I didn't have any. Now I have 1/3 a years salary.
People live paycheck to paycheck now.
People live paycheck to paycheck now.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:22 pm to Caddeaux
I was told last night a family of 4 earning 90k a year can’t be expected to have substantial savings.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:23 pm to Caddeaux
Most people do not and would prefer an expensive boat or house with extra "bedrooms". Neither of these will get you out of a bind quickly like a 3-6 month savings account
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:24 pm to Caddeaux
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My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved? If so, I think that speaks volumes about the state this nation is really in.
That’s a problem
How much money has our fedgov “saved”? That’s a bigger problem
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:24 pm to Caddeaux
Do these multi billion profit companies not have any savings (cash). Bc they are sky screaming about bailouts two weeks in.
fricking Wall Street always wanting growth and if a company sits on cash no one invests in them ... the CEO gets axes for no growth (M&A, buybacks, expansions, etc)
fricking Wall Street always wanting growth and if a company sits on cash no one invests in them ... the CEO gets axes for no growth (M&A, buybacks, expansions, etc)
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:27 pm to Caddeaux
i got blasted for pointing this out on the OT
i can't really feel bad for any adult with less than a couple months expenses saved, unless you're very fresh out of college or something
i can't really feel bad for any adult with less than a couple months expenses saved, unless you're very fresh out of college or something
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:27 pm to Caddeaux
I have enough in a college fund to probably send my 2 daughters to college and give them decent weddings. So, that’s a relief.
I have enough in general to re-roof my house and put a new HVAC in when those days beset me.
I have enough in general to re-roof my house and put a new HVAC in when those days beset me.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:28 pm to Caddeaux
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My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved? If so, I think that speaks volumes about the state this nation is really in.
This is not news. People have been saying this for YEARS.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:34 pm to Caddeaux
My wife and I have a savings, it’s called a 401K.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:35 pm to Caddeaux
They should put that big tax refund they receive due to the earned income credit in a savings account
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:36 pm to Caddeaux
It took me 4 years to save up 6 months worth by myself. So it’s not an easy task.
People want what they want they want it now. Saving is the exact opposite of that. It takes discipline, consistency and knowing what you want versus what you need. It also lets me use one of my favorite quotes “delayed gratification built the middle class”.
People want what they want they want it now. Saving is the exact opposite of that. It takes discipline, consistency and knowing what you want versus what you need. It also lets me use one of my favorite quotes “delayed gratification built the middle class”.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:38 pm to Caddeaux
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Do People Not Have Savings Anymore?
Sadly no. Most people have a mountain of debt and live paycheck to paycheck, that's why they get so screwed when an emergency pops up.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:40 pm to Caddeaux
My wife and I have savings but I shouldn’t have to use it because some fricking Chinese trash bag ate a bat and our media is trying to collapse our economy.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:46 pm to Caddeaux
Me and the wife make a little over 250k, with 4 kids and don’t have a lot saved, roughly 2 months worth, but we live in NYC and bought an apartment 2 years ago. Luckily both of our jobs allow us to work from home so we don’t have anything to worry about during this.
That said, it’s scary how quiet the city has been this week.
That said, it’s scary how quiet the city has been this week.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:53 pm to Caddeaux
Then, like a friend of mine, you have a hemorrhagic stroke a year ago and cannot work his job, gets 60% of his salary, and loads of expenses. That 6 month cushion then becomes reversed
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:02 pm to Caddeaux
It all comes down to discipline and sacrifice.
My wife and I are no more than middle (some would say lower-middle) class in our early 30s.
We worked through college and graduated with about 17k loans between us. We don't vacation. We upgraded cars only when necessary. When our CC debt started getting out of control, we cut ourselves off and maintained until we could afford to pay it down. We waited until 30 to have a baby.
More than anything, we have always prioritized having an emergency fund and saving for specific goals (wedding, baby, etc).
The amount of batshit insane mistakes I see people my age make financially is ridiculous. Every penny of a raise or bonus goes to "reward" themselves when they're sitting on tens of thousands in debt and no assets to speak of. Not even touching the people who smoke or drink away thousands of dollars a year and freak out over a $25 co-pay to go to the doctor.
My wife and I are no more than middle (some would say lower-middle) class in our early 30s.
We worked through college and graduated with about 17k loans between us. We don't vacation. We upgraded cars only when necessary. When our CC debt started getting out of control, we cut ourselves off and maintained until we could afford to pay it down. We waited until 30 to have a baby.
More than anything, we have always prioritized having an emergency fund and saving for specific goals (wedding, baby, etc).
The amount of batshit insane mistakes I see people my age make financially is ridiculous. Every penny of a raise or bonus goes to "reward" themselves when they're sitting on tens of thousands in debt and no assets to speak of. Not even touching the people who smoke or drink away thousands of dollars a year and freak out over a $25 co-pay to go to the doctor.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:11 pm to Caddeaux
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My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved?
the stat is like 80% of Americans have less than 400 bucks in savings
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:24 pm to Caddeaux
Yea like 70% of Americans have less than $1000 in savings, 35% have 0. Most are a flat tire away from being broke.
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