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I Heard Two Interesting Positions on NPR Today; Do People Not Have Savings Anymore?

Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:20 pm
Posted by Caddeaux
Pinehurst
Member since Mar 2020
18 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:20 pm
The guest (female economist, can't remember her name) used to work for the Obama administration, so I already expected to hear some left-of-center viewpoints, but she was arguing that tax cuts preferred by Trump are not the way to go because they fail to benefit those who have lost their jobs or didn't pay taxes to begin with.

Her second point was that people need the (in my opinion negligble) $1,000 proposed cash sum immediately because they are really hurting right now (after a mere 2 weeks into this "crisis").

I was always taught to make sure you have enough savings to live for 3-6 months without steady income. This is exactly what my wife and I made a point to save. I guess this means we had to forgo some of the luxuries other people our age indulge in, but it was more important to feel secure, and I can guarantee we don't miss having a new $1,200 iPhone every year, or a 75-inch TV, or whatever the average consumer is spending their 'disposable' income on.

My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved? If so, I think that speaks volumes about the state this nation is really in.

God forbid we have an actual crisis. These people would be living in the woods and eating sticks.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:22 pm to
Until 2 years ago, I didn't have any. Now I have 1/3 a years salary.

People live paycheck to paycheck now.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22513 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:22 pm to
I was told last night a family of 4 earning 90k a year can’t be expected to have substantial savings.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:23 pm to
Most people do not and would prefer an expensive boat or house with extra "bedrooms". Neither of these will get you out of a bind quickly like a 3-6 month savings account
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:25 pm
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18964 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved? If so, I think that speaks volumes about the state this nation is really in.

That’s a problem

How much money has our fedgov “saved”? That’s a bigger problem
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Brood211
Member since Jun 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:24 pm to
Do these multi billion profit companies not have any savings (cash). Bc they are sky screaming about bailouts two weeks in.

fricking Wall Street always wanting growth and if a company sits on cash no one invests in them ... the CEO gets axes for no growth (M&A, buybacks, expansions, etc)
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55838 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:27 pm to
i got blasted for pointing this out on the OT

i can't really feel bad for any adult with less than a couple months expenses saved, unless you're very fresh out of college or something
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:27 pm to
I have enough in a college fund to probably send my 2 daughters to college and give them decent weddings. So, that’s a relief.

I have enough in general to re-roof my house and put a new HVAC in when those days beset me.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved? If so, I think that speaks volumes about the state this nation is really in.


This is not news. People have been saying this for YEARS.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99094 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:31 pm to
Many don't.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26690 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:34 pm to
My wife and I have a savings, it’s called a 401K.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:35 pm to
They should put that big tax refund they receive due to the earned income credit in a savings account
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7070 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:36 pm to
It took me 4 years to save up 6 months worth by myself. So it’s not an easy task.

People want what they want they want it now. Saving is the exact opposite of that. It takes discipline, consistency and knowing what you want versus what you need. It also lets me use one of my favorite quotes “delayed gratification built the middle class”.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

Do People Not Have Savings Anymore?


Sadly no. Most people have a mountain of debt and live paycheck to paycheck, that's why they get so screwed when an emergency pops up.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13495 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:40 pm to
My wife and I have savings but I shouldn’t have to use it because some fricking Chinese trash bag ate a bat and our media is trying to collapse our economy.
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:46 pm to
Me and the wife make a little over 250k, with 4 kids and don’t have a lot saved, roughly 2 months worth, but we live in NYC and bought an apartment 2 years ago. Luckily both of our jobs allow us to work from home so we don’t have anything to worry about during this.

That said, it’s scary how quiet the city has been this week.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 8:47 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27701 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 8:53 pm to
Then, like a friend of mine, you have a hemorrhagic stroke a year ago and cannot work his job, gets 60% of his salary, and loads of expenses. That 6 month cushion then becomes reversed
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:02 pm to
It all comes down to discipline and sacrifice.

My wife and I are no more than middle (some would say lower-middle) class in our early 30s.

We worked through college and graduated with about 17k loans between us. We don't vacation. We upgraded cars only when necessary. When our CC debt started getting out of control, we cut ourselves off and maintained until we could afford to pay it down. We waited until 30 to have a baby.

More than anything, we have always prioritized having an emergency fund and saving for specific goals (wedding, baby, etc).

The amount of batshit insane mistakes I see people my age make financially is ridiculous. Every penny of a raise or bonus goes to "reward" themselves when they're sitting on tens of thousands in debt and no assets to speak of. Not even touching the people who smoke or drink away thousands of dollars a year and freak out over a $25 co-pay to go to the doctor.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53777 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

My question is: does the average American really not have any money saved?


the stat is like 80% of Americans have less than 400 bucks in savings
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1964 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:24 pm to
Yea like 70% of Americans have less than $1000 in savings, 35% have 0. Most are a flat tire away from being broke.
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