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Flu vs Corona Virus
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:36 pm
So far just over 30 people have died from Covid-19 in the United States. Most of the victims came from nursing homes in Washington. To put in context, according to the CDC as of March 6th, 20,000 Americans have died so far this year from the common flu with 350,000 hospitalizations.
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:37 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Wuhan Chinese Communist Winnie The Pooh Bat Eater Dog Killer virus you mean
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:37 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Why does this keep getting posted?
You’re literally weeks behind with this comparison
You’re literally weeks behind with this comparison
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:40 pm to Tiger1242
And, the flu has never overwhelmed medical services in multiple countries.
If Trump does nothing, and that happens here, re-election just became an issue.
He’s forced to act.
If Trump does nothing, and that happens here, re-election just became an issue.
He’s forced to act.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:47 pm to Ramblin Wreck
quote:
according to the CDC as of March 6th, 20,000 Americans have died so far this year from the common flu with 350,000 hospitalizations.
Someone broke down their numbers, lots of unidentified respiratory illnesses lumped in with "flu".
Moreover, "flu" = several different strands. COVID-19 is a single strand.
Also you're comparing a well established virus with one that just got here. I'm sure at one point in time only 30 people were dead in China, now its thousands.
Essentially apples to oranges. COVID-19 isn't a huge deal, but its certainly worse than the flu. Just look at Trump's response.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:52 pm to BobBoucher
quote:
And, the flu has never overwhelmed medical services in multiple countries.
Its almost like Deja Vu
In order of events
Swine flu strands cruise ship passengers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-05-23/swine-flu-strands-cruise-ship-passengers/1692552
Doctors face 'playing God' over who lives or dies if swine flu overwhelms NHS... as fans start wearing masks to football matches
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202386/Doctors-face-playing-God-lives-dies-swine-flu-overwhelms-NHS.html
WHO declares swine flu pandemic
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/11/swine-flu-pandemic-who-declares
In Flu Pandemic, Florida's Hospitals May Exclude Certain Patients
https://www.propublica.org/article/in-flu-pandemic-states-hospitals-may-exclude-certain-patients-1016
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:54 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I’d like to reiterate my plea for a stickied thread for all the flu death comparison people to circlejerk their idiocy.
It works for the Q-tards.
It works for the Q-tards.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:57 pm to YF12
quote:
YF12
Nothing you linked makes the point you think it does. Wish casting, hypothetical articles from swine flu are irrelevant. The Italians are proof that if this situation is mishandled, it’s going to cause problems in local health systems.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:58 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
hypothetical articles
Hypothetical articles?
You said it never happened before
Nothing hypothetical about it. It has. Recently.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 5:59 pm to BobBoucher
quote:
And, the flu has never overwhelmed medical services in multiple countries.
I'm sorry, but the flu overwhelms my community almost every year, vaccines and all
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:00 pm to Ramblin Wreck
covid-19 is new, and has a better press agent.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:01 pm to Azkiger
quote:Negative!
lots of unidentified respiratory illnesses lumped in with "flu".
"Someone" was mistaken.
Perhaps they were referring to stats establishing up to 52K US deaths attributable to flu or related causes.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:03 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Are you under the impression H1N1 did not do that?
it’s going to cause problems in local health systems.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:10 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:I'm under the impression that the consensus is that the hospitalization rate for WuFlu is a good bit higher than for swine flu. Happy to be shown info to the contrary.
Are you under the impression H1N1 did not do that?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:12 pm to YF12
quote:
Nothing hypothetical about it. It has. Recently.
One of the articles you quoted has “may” in the title. Another was simply the WHO using a word, and a third uses “if” instead of “May” and never materialized at all.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:True. The overall numbers are likely to not be comparable though. The 2009 US H1N1 hospitalization rate ran around 260,000.
the consensus is that the hospitalization rate for WuFlu is a good bit higher than for swine flu.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:51 pm to Ramblin Wreck
H1N1 killed healthy children and adults.
Kung Flu kills elderly with health problems
Which one sounds like a more devastating virus?
Today’s events are overblown and purely political
Kung Flu kills elderly with health problems
Which one sounds like a more devastating virus?
Today’s events are overblown and purely political
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:53 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Good luck with that.
You must panic goddamnit, you must blame Trump, and you cannot utter one word about China.
You must panic goddamnit, you must blame Trump, and you cannot utter one word about China.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:59 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
Nothing you linked makes the point you think it does. Wish casting, hypothetical articles from swine flu are irrelevant. The Italians are proof that if this situation is mishandled, it’s going to cause problems in local health systems.
Yes, if the United States suddenly implements socialized medicine and drastically cut their ICU beds and respirators while also closing any LTACs we could end up just like Italy
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:08 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:that was the rate or that was the absolute number at the end?
The 2009 US H1N1 hospitalization rate ran around 260,000.
To me, the most astonishing thing about swine was how it was widely agreed that the death rate was 1-1.3% until 6 years later when they did the deep dive and found that it was .02%. That is to say, even the "calmed down" consensus have over-estimated it by 50X+!
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