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re: Granting dying wishes vs going against a parents wishes.

Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12480 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:50 pm to
Thank God you has the best interest for your children before she leaves. There isn't any selfishness to it. Do it.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
14013 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:51 pm to
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She called me this morning asking if we would consider baptizing our children before she dies.

If that's really what she asked (consideration), then you've done that and can give an answer of no.

If that's not good enough for her, there's no reason to abandon the philosophy you've employed in your family just because she's selfishly utilizing her situation as leverage.

Conceding and doing a 180 forcing your kids to begin that process is a move they won't appreciate at all now or in the future. Particularly if you've laid out the philosophy to them directly, you'd just be confusing them. Hopefully they wouldn't hold it against you in the future, because unlike gma you'll have to live with them for a while.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2659 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:51 pm to
My grandparents had brother/me baptized without my parents knowledge.

At least your grandma isn’t doing that.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114185 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:51 pm to
While I would respect her because she is old and on her death bed, it would bother me. You and your wife made a decision about your kids and your dying grandmother (the kids great grandmother) wants YOU to do what she think is best for them.

Would she find out if you told her yall did it but didn't really do it?

In order to get them baptized Catholic don't you have to go through classes and other stuff before doing it? I know if an adult decides to become Catholic they have to go through stuff... But that seems like an odd thing for a great grandmother to want from her great grandkids.
Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
1485 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:52 pm to
I really don’t get what y’all don’t understand about this. There are two perspectives: grandma and the parents. Is grandma being unreasonable and is the reason for not baptizing correct?

1: grandma. She’s not unreasonable and right or wrong she likely believes the below to be true and believes she is looking out for her great grand kids.

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Posted by CoachChappy online on 3/5/20 at 1:23 pm to TIGRLEE quote: Weird request. Not really. If the kids were to die unbaptized, they don;t get into heaven. GMaw wants that protection for them. OP Why didn't you baptize your kids? "I want them to make a decision on their own one day" is bull shite. You can baptize them and they could choose later in life to not be a devout Catholic such as yourself. At least, start them on the path.


2: yalls reasoning for not baptizing was so they could make their own decision. If you believed like your grandmother I would question your parenting but it sounds like you don’t. In that case what does it matter whether they are baptized or not.

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Posted by LazloHollyfeld on 3/5/20 at 1:11 pm to TIGERBAIT84 Baptizing them now doesn't prevent them independently making a decision later in life on what religious route they would like to take
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:55 pm to
Forget my last advice about cherishing your grandmother.

Tell her to go frig herself. She's probably giving all her money to the church anyway.

Am I doing this right?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7467 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:57 pm to
I inadvertently walked in on a conversation my MIL was having with her sister and my sister-in-law. My MIL was nearly in tears explaining how disappointed she was that my kids weren't being raised in a religious home or baptized. It wasn't that she wanted them to find salvation or anything, it was "I'll never get to see them in heaven".

I turned right back around and left the room without saying a word. I'm not going to be guilt-tripped by my MIL to indoctrinate my children based on her own personal beliefs.
Posted by OutDamSpot
Member since May 2019
336 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 1:59 pm to
I would grant that wish. It will also be a nice memory with pics and a family gathering that the grandparent will enjoy.

My wife cares nothing for organized religions but knowing that it mattered to my mom, she let my mom handle all that.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14669 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:17 pm to
Baptize them, all they do is sprinkle water on them
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18917 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:27 pm to
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I also know that ones dying wish should be heard and considered
No one, family or otherwise, is due more than this.

Here is my personal case. My 3 boys were all baptized. Not one stayed in the Catholic faith. It may have been a waste of time.

Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36384 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:32 pm to
What a selfish see you next... that she’d guilt you and your wife to go against what the two of you agreed upon regarding raising your kids.

I mean *absolutely* no disrespect, but tell the bitch to get bent.

It’s shite like this that makes me and a lot of us atheist/agnostic and not follow organized religion... because of the bullshite beliefs and mandates.

Thing is? I’m not even a little bit surprised.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28960 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:36 pm to
Doesn’t it take a while to get baptized? I’m not catholic so I don’t know but I thought you had to go through some steps first.

Besides that, at 4 and 5 it may be very odd to them to suddenly jump into something like that.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12322 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:41 pm to
Get them baptized. End of story. You’ll regret when she dies and you decided not to
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
62283 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:43 pm to
What's the will situation?
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6478 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:51 pm to
What harm would baptising the kids do? It will literally have no impact on their earthly lives. They can join another religion, never practice, or do whatever the hell they want later. Make your grandmother happy in her dying days.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67497 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:52 pm to
I’ll be honeat, I know she’s dying but it’s not great to use that to leverage people.

Your kids are your kids. You have to make your choices for them not anyone else.

However, I dont Think I understand your current situation. Is your family prwxticing Catholicism? If so, might as well get em baptized. It really doesn’t stop you from converting to any other faith later.

My mother converted, my wife converted and my cousin converted.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:30 pm to
Hear
Believe
Repent
Confess

5 and 4 year olds are not capable of this. They should not get baptized now. And your grandmothers request has nothing to do with it.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28640 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:34 pm to
I understand your point about your children, but even if you baptize them in the Catholic faith, they will still make their own decision.

They are young and you are raising independent people.

You won't be pounding it into them.

She's dying.

Why not have a small ceremony, a family event, and let her have some smiles?
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
5029 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:39 pm to
I remember when we had our first kid, and my moms asked me if the child could spend Friday nights with her. I didn't see an issue but discussed it with my wife. We agreed neither of our parents should have expectations like that, and we shouldn't set that precedent. When two people get married, it's no longer me, mom, brothers, grandma, and the new wife. It's me and the wife. Our life. I would tell my grandma that I made a decision with my wife to live our lives a certain way, just like I'm sure your grandmother and grand father did. She should be proud to take that to her grave.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57561 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:46 pm to
grab your dick, scream "baptize this!," and hit your grandmother in the face with a water balloon
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