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re: Do socialists think that billionaires stole their money?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:56 am to TheSexecutioner
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:56 am to TheSexecutioner
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No, they should not expect a "return" from the increase in the rent value of the land. An increase that, by definition, happened independent of anything that they did.
You really do not have a concept of ownership here do you...
You realize property on the Gulf of Mexico sold for $.50 per acre at one point? Do you realize it sells by the square foot now?
LMAO, buying and selling land is one of the safest ways to make money...
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:56 am to TheSexecutioner
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What do you mean by investment? Capital improvements they invest into the land or natural appreciation of the rent value?
Land is scarce, especially land in urban areas. There is value in scarcity. You're saying that if I can afford to buy land in a valuable business area that I should not view this as an investment?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:57 am to TigerBait1971
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:59 am to Powerman
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I laugh at people that think that's all he got
Oh he got a ton more, that's just an example. But it's a perfect example of inheriting and building an empire. Do you not respect what he did bc his daddy was really successful, therefore, he didn't do it alone?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:00 am to TheSexecutioner
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No, they should not expect a "return" from the increase in the rent value of the land.
Explain what you mean by this. If not real estate appreciation, how is the rent value of the land increased?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:00 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Labor is the source of wealth
Lol
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:01 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:Why would you pay people more than the amount that they have agreed to?
They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more.
DO you buy lettuce at the store and go, "$2? I'll pay the man $57 because the debunked Marxist theory of labor value."
You don't do you?
Because you are a fraud. You agree to a price, you pay that price.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:01 am to bstew3006
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Do you not respect what he did bc his daddy was really successful, therefore, he didn't do it alone?
My only problem is that he's dishonest about it just like he is about most things
He's taken over 400 million from his dad's business empire. Fine so be it. But don't lie and say you just got a one time loan.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:01 am to TigerBait1971
How big of a cuck do you have to be to defend billionaires online lmao
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:02 am to Powerman
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He's taken over 400 million from his dad's business empire.
Link?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:03 am to The Maj
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You really do not have a concept of ownership here do you...
You realize property on the Gulf of Mexico sold for $.50 per acre at one point? Do you realize it sells by the square foot now?
LMAO, buying and selling land is one of the safest ways to make money...
Well thank God an expert is here to help. Please explain your brilliant proof to the homesteading principle, a question that the greatest political economists have struggled with and quarreled over for decades.
Who did they buy that land from? How did the seller have rights to deed it off?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:03 am to Damone
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How big of a cuck do you have to be to defend billionaires online lmao
It's a discussion board, genius. And it's not defending the individual, it's fighting the jealousy/entitlement mind set that just because one person is rich, anyone who ever worked for him is more deserving of that money.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:04 am to Damone
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How big of a cuck do you have to be to attack people because they are successful and I am not---Damone
FIFY
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:05 am to TheSexecutioner
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Who did they buy that land from? How did the seller have rights to deed it off?
Oh, I got it now... Your position is that nobody actually owns the land... WOW, you are a fricking idiot...
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:05 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Banker and power broker in the sex trafficking and blackmail trade.
How do you tax that?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:07 am to TheSexecutioner
quote:What if they purchased it from the government you worship so fervently?
Who did they buy that land from? How did the seller have rights to deed it off?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:07 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more
If the wicked billionaires hadn't "used" those people's labor, they would get paid zero.
Alternately, the people "they used" could come up with their own money making enterprise. There's no club or caste that you need to belong to. Most who try fail, a few do not, and you only know about the winners.
Jealousy is an ugly look, and that's all this is.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:08 am to SidewalkDawg
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Land is scarce, especially land in urban areas. There is value in scarcity. You're saying that if I can afford to buy land in a valuable business area that I should not view this as an investment?
I am not sure what you are asking. If the government grants you a monopoly on that land, you will likely see a profit on the appreciation of the rent value of the land you have a monopoly on. Thus, you can view such a deed as an investment.
I don't believe in the legitimacy of such a deed.
I was under the impression this thread was talking about "ought"..... Why retreat back to "is"?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:08 am to Damone
lulz
Posted on 2/25/20 at 9:10 am to Scruffy
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What if they purchased it from the government you worship so fervently?
Where did I worship the government?
You are the one boot-licking to the legitimacy of a government-enforced deed. They own that land because your beloved government said so and gave them a deed. You are recognizing the authority of the government as arbiters of property ownership. I am doing no such thing.
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