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re: Seriously WTF??? Judge Berman letting "concerned citizens" file opinions in Stone case??
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:55 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:55 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Those are here initials. She clearly read and entered into the record this retarded letter.
Good Lord, people, she did not admit this letter in the evidence.
When someone writes to a court, or any government agency, the document becomes public record. It must be filed and maintained somewhere. That stamp simply says that it can be included in the file for the pending court case.
I seriously doubt that the judge is going to read every letter written to the court by some yahoo with an opinion.
But you go on being the Lefty apologist you ALWAYS are. You fake frick.
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:55 pm to PhDoogan
quote:It is a formal communication to the Court, making specific reference to a specific case.
Honestly, Hank, why would she take a fawning fan-girl letter that appears to have been addressed directly to her and put it in the record, apparently sua sponte? I mean, that's presumably her initials on the letter, which appears to have not been accompanied by a motion for leave.
You are correct in observing that it was not likely accompanied by a Motion for Leave. Sure, the court could have mailed it back to the old gentleman, but laypersons tend to be given leeway on that sort of clerical detail
I do not know the routine in that court, but in the past I have seen non-litigants write letters to courts regarding extant cases. In each case, the court informed the litigants of the communication and stuck the letter in the case file.
Posters keep referencing “the record,” and I doubt they can even define the term. The letter was kept in the file. It is not admitted into evidence.
This just is not a big deal.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:58 pm to roadGator
quote:
Can it be refused instead of granted?
Absolutely, leave of court can be denied. Here, Mr. Norton did not appear to request that this be filed in the record so it just looks Judge Berman technically granted herself leave to file that into the record.
I am not aware what her basis would be for doing so. Just makes no sense to me.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 1:58 pm to PsychTiger
quote:
Probably posts here while claiming to be a Libertarian.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:00 pm to PhDoogan
What . . . we gonna allow rogue political operatives to roam our streets corrupting our children and defiling our women?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:05 pm to PhDoogan
Ho Lee Fuk
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:06 pm to PhDoogan
quote:PhD is absolutely correct that Motion for Leave could be denied. If this were an amicus brief of some sort, filed over the signature block of a licensed attorney, the document would likely not have been filed without such a motion.quote:Absolutely, leave of court can be denied. Here, Mr. Norton did not appear to request that this be filed in the record so it just looks Judge Berman technically granted herself leave to file that into the record.
Can it be refused instead of granted?
I am not aware what her basis would be for doing so. Just makes no sense to me.
Clearly, the court de facto granted leave sua sponte, rather than sending this old man’s letter back to him.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 2/19/20 at 2:14 pm to PhDoogan
The fact that this is doc 323 and not 323-1 or 323-3, etc. suggests that this was filed into the record all on its own and not as a part of some other document or pleading from an actual party to the case. Definitely seems very stupid.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:44 am to PhDoogan
I was not here yesterday when this was posted bump sorry I germansed you.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:55 am to cajunangelle
Just a reminder that if the Democrats ever get control of the Senate and the White House at the same time this is your next appointee to the Supreme Court.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:07 am to PhDoogan
that dude was never a republican. ever.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:11 am to Bulldogblitz
Is sentencing today?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:13 am to PhDoogan
quote:It shows her political animus, no?
Absolutely, leave of court can be denied. Here, Mr. Norton did not appear to request that this be filed in the record so it just looks Judge Berman technically granted herself leave to file that into the record.
I am not aware what her basis would be for doing so. Just makes no sense to me.
She obviously hates Trump, therefore Stone more than her standing as a judge?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:15 am to PhDoogan
This is absolutely ridiculous.
Seriously, this is bullshite she's actually allowing this.
Seriously, this is bullshite she's actually allowing this.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:21 am to Sentrius
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After all she represented dolla bill jefferson.
Letter should ask her if she felt Jefferson's sentence was too harsh.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:22 am to PhDoogan
hopefully the concerned citizens will ask something like
why did we send more authorities to arrest Stone than we did to save/protect/defend the ambassador in Benghazi?
why did we send more authorities to arrest Stone than we did to save/protect/defend the ambassador in Benghazi?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 10:46 am to cajunangelle
No worries, GermanAngelle. 
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:05 am to cajunangelle
quote:Someone writes a letter to a court specific to a specific case.
(Putting the letter in the case file) shows her political animus, no?
She obviously hates Trump, therefore Stone more than her standing as a judge?
Does receipt of that letter make the document a “public record. Yes or no?
If “yes,” where do YOU propose that a letter specific to a specific court case be filed? Somewhere related to admin expenses?
If it is ever needed, where are you most likely to be able to find it? (After all, the ability to find something later IS the purpose of a filing system).
She had her clerk stick it in the file of the case set forth in the REFERENCE LINE of the letter. Again, y’all are seeing a mountain when the actual facts are not even a mole hill.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 11:07 am
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:06 am to AggieHank86
quote:Why would it be needed?
If it is ever needed, where are you most likely to be able to find it?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:06 am to boosiebadazz
quote:
think it’s time for some of you to put your money where your mouth is and let the judge know how you feel about ole Roger
Where do I send it and is there a criminal penalty for calling a federal judge a dishonest piece of trash?
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