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Major national med school test changes from a score to pass/fail

Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:29 am
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40642 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:29 am
Pathetic

“These new policies strengthen the integrity of the USMLE and address concerns about Step 1 scores impacting student well-being and medical education,” said Humayun Chaudhry, DO, MACP, President and CEO of the FSMB.

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Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67506 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:31 am to
I'm not seeing where they discuss the patient; I must have missed it
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96453 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:33 am to
Why am I picturing those commercials of “Just good isn’t good enough.”, with the doc who just got his license reinstated or the skydiving instructor doing his first jump?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:33 am to
This is awful.

Weird even.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:35 am to
The dean at our medical school told us this news last week before it broke. Apparently FSMB and NBME disliked the weight residency programs were putting on Step 1 scores. I imagine that since Step 2 CK and CS will still be scored, residency programs might look at that more closely, but I honestly don't know.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 7:39 am
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:43 am to
Let's call it what it is.

Dumbed down in the name of diversity.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:43 am to
Part of the gauntlet that is medical school ... people who are smarter can pass their classes and do well on the USMLE. This is all about trying to give what medical schools call “URMs” a boost in the match. Complete BS.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12421 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:03 am to
This isn't education, democracy, or meritocracy.
This is socialist totalitarianism.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18896 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:06 am to
They're trying to squash the old joke:

"Do you know what they call the guy who graduates with the worst grades in his medical school class? Doctor."
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30130 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:14 am to
of all the professions, yes lets do away with making sure doctors learn and know what the frick they are doing and go to participation trophy diplomas instead
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68429 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:36 am to
I dont see how changing to pass/fail matters much. It's not like barely passing an examn in high school or undergrad. If you pass, you're doing well.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3189 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:15 pm to
Now, how are they going to decide who is among the top 1% of medical students smart enough to inject botox and increase the size of women's breasts?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16275 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:30 pm to
I'd like a doctor who had high test scores... opposed to a doctor who just barely passed.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34241 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Humayun Chaudhry, DO,

What does an Osteopath have to do with scoring what real Medical School Students and Residency Programs do with STEP scores?

Sounds like this Indian guy wants hocus pocus Osteopath Medical Students on par with traditional medicine.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26799 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 1:41 pm to
Sounds like going to a doctor.

You're either better or you're not.
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
1008 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:01 pm to
Get excited to be operated on by Dr. Jontavius and Lakweisha.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:58 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16246 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Humayun Chaudhry, DO, MACP, President and CEO of the FSMB.


Found the problem.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124189 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Major national med school test changes from a score to pass/fail

Over the past decade, Med Schools largely dropped grades, at least through the first two years.
Many dropped class rank.

The tendency began at perceived "Top Schools" which were seeing their middle and lower-tier grads struggling to compete with top-tier state school grads. Once the major private programs dropped grades and rank, competing schools followed suit.

Without grades or class rank as guides, top residencies need a way to sift through qualified applicants. The challenge is to identify outperformers and underperformers relative to individual schools.

So residencies turned heavily to comparative Step 1 scores. As they did, schools began to teach to the exam, and award large blocks of time for test prep. Reliance on a single test on a single day always seemed problematic to me. Then again, underachievement on Step 1 could still be countered by crushing Step 2 just prior to residency interviews.

IMO the solution is for Med Schools to return to grades and rank, and let the USMLE do its thing. But that won't happen, because the name brands want to advantage their underperformers. Sad, and dumb.

The result? All eggs will be piled into the Step2 bucket. The more clinically-oriented Step 2, which will still be graded, will assume infinitely more relevance in the process.
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2039 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 7:19 am to
I don't get it. These folks are willingly entering a profession where mistakes can lead to death. I'm not gonna go asking for the transcripts of my doctors, but I sure as shite don't want anyone medicating me or operating on me if they weren't steely enough to live with a failing grade.

It's med school. It's supposed to be hard. That's the point.
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