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The Phantom Menace isn’t a terrible movie

Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:37 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:37 pm
I’m not afraid to say it.

It gets hated on because people have to compare it to Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi.. 4 and 5 especially. Also the awful awful Attack of the Clones (which is awful) comes next and drags it down more.

It’s not a fantastic movie but it gets too much hate.

It also helps that TLJ was a total joke. Phantom Menace at least feels like Star Wars.
Posted by Huey Lewis
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Member since Oct 2013
5099 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:39 pm to
Nah man, it is a terrible movie.

I can watch it and at least enjoy parts of it unlike TLJ. But it's still terrible.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:46 pm to
The terrible parts are all centered around Darth Jar Jar.

The pod racing isn’t bad at all.

Duel of the Fates, enough said
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:47 pm to
It’s a piece of shite, deal with it.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:50 pm to
It's fricking awful.

The only thing keeping it from being the worst Star Wars movie is Attack of the Clones.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:55 pm to
It is a coherent movie with a bunch of really dumb characters, equally dumb plot points, and a few universe-unraveling nonsensical ideas.

Contrast that with the truly terrible AOTC that is an incoherent mess with the same dumb characters, dumb plot points, and nonsensical ideas.

You could fix TPM with a few strokes of the pen - open the movie with the assassination plot from AOTC and center the action on Qui-gon and Obi-wan protecting Amidala, introduce Anakin at roughly Luke's age, run Maul as the Big Bad of the movie. No Trade Federation, no Gungans, no droid army. Kill Qui-gon at the end, set up a reveal of Sideous betraying Maul and turning Anakin to close Movie 2, end the trilogy with an extended hunt of the remaining Jedi/confrontation with Maul and ultimately the closer of Rogue One.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted by MF Doom
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Member since Oct 2008
11914 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:57 pm to
The only good thing to come out of the phantom menace was the pod racing arcade game I used to play the shite out of at Chuck e cheese
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:11 pm to
They could have cut 40 minutes of trade talk. Used Maul more.

And if jar jar had left when qui gon told him to the first time..would have been probably been better.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 8:16 pm
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14066 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:18 pm to
I've never understood the hate for Episode 1. I've always liked it.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:19 pm to
It has some really bad acting in it. Anikans mom, the trade guys, Anikan...all really bad. Natalie Portman was saddled by a bad script.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 8:34 pm to
Having the gungans speak like an over the top caricature of Jamaicans really drags the movie down. Just making Jar Jar a little more serious would have gone a long way towards making the movie better.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:18 pm to
Yes, it is

It is absolutely dreadful
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

It has some really bad acting in it. Anikans mom, the trade guys, Anikan...all really bad. Natalie Portman was saddled by a bad script.




Yes yes yes. The acting in these is horrible. I'm watching through all of them with my 4 year old and I'd forgotten how bad the acting is in the first 2. We started TFA tonight.


Neeson and McGregor are good, but the rest are like they videoed the table read.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:55 pm to
There's no protagonist.

The dialog is terrible.

The acting is wooden and lifeless.

The kid and JarJar are awful and ruin every scene they are in.

Many of the major plot points are nonsensical.

It's a gigantic piece of crap.
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
3574 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 10:04 pm to
this board is like Groundhog Day.

But yes. It's not as bad as others make it out to be
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64749 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

It’s not a fantastic movie but it gets too much hate.

No, it gets the appropriate amount of hate.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
84069 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 10:26 pm to
It’s interesting to see how TLJ has affected the way a lot of folk view all the movies. The prequels are suddenly deemed better and TFA is suddenly shite.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84069 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

The acting in these is horrible.


Every actor in the prequels comes off bad, even actors who we know are good. Clearly it wasn’t the actors that were bad but instead the shite dialogue, absurd costumes, and I think the filming method due to the CGI. Which of course made all the prequels look fake.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 10:31 pm to
That kid was one of the worst child actors I’ve ever seen. He was awful.

Jar Jar.

CGI out the wazoo. At times it looks like I’m watching toy story.

Downright terrible dialogue.

It’s not good. But it’s not unforgivable.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3740 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 10:35 pm to
When it came out and after the first viewing it really sucked when the realization hit me that this movie and likely the next two as well would suck and be a big disappointment. TFA was way more enjoyable but then came TLJ etc etc. In hindsight, TPM is only the third worst Star Wars movie ever after Clones and TLJ. But don’t kid yourself that it is a really good movie. It isn’t.
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