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Rick Scott announces Constitutional amendment to raise threshold for impeachment
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:04 pm
quote:
Fresh off the Senate impeachment trial that resulted in President Trump's acquittal, Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., is calling for an amendment to the Constitution that would make it more difficult for presidents to be impeached.
Scott's amendment would require a super-majority of three-fifths of the House of Representatives in order to approve articles of impeachment, instead of the current standard which is a simple majority.
Constitutional amendment to raise threshold for impeachment
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:06 pm to Wire Paladin
The grandstanders are coming out of the woodwork.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:09 pm to Wire Paladin
quote:
three-fifths of the House of Representatives
It should be the same as the Senate.
Simple majority sucks.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:10 pm to Wire Paladin
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Scott's amendment would require a super-majority of three-fifths of the House of Representatives in order to approve articles of impeachment, instead of the current standard which is a simple majority.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:13 pm to texashorn
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The grandstanders are coming out of the woodwork.
The system worked, the accused was acquitted and became stronger because of it. That should deter partisan impeachments in the future. My point being is that 3 times in US history now it has made the President stronger. It always backfires. Let them try it again. No sense cutting Wile E.Coyote's credit line with Acme.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:24 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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It should be the same as the Senate.
Simple majority sucks.
I don't see anything wrong with that sentiment given the assertion that "you will forever be impeached" and the proposition from those on the left that it's a stain on a President's tenure, a tag that will taint (if I may) the President's legacy until the end if history.
If it's that significant a punishment, that substantial a smear, as has been asserted directly from those such as Pelosi herself.....then a penalty THAT significant requires a matching threshold for it's implementation, a decisive and weighty ballot.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 11:33 pm to Wire Paladin
Scott reads PT
LINK
He didn't go as far as I did, but 50% is dumb AF.
LINK
He didn't go as far as I did, but 50% is dumb AF.
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:16 am to Wire Paladin
quote:That compromise is going to trigger the dymocrites.
three-fifths
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:20 am to Wire Paladin
I'd rather put other items up such as line item veto, audit the Fed, forensic accounting on foreign aid, defund Planned Parenthood and any other organizations that get tax dollars & donate to D.C. politicians.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:22 am to viceman
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No sense cutting Wile E.Coyote's credit line with Acme.
I like that. Mind if I steal it?
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:22 am to Wire Paladin
Actually he is close to being right.
The low bar for impeachment by the house was written back when Presidents didn't have term limits
Now that Presidents are limited to 2 terms impeachment should be harder.
The low bar for impeachment by the house was written back when Presidents didn't have term limits
Now that Presidents are limited to 2 terms impeachment should be harder.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:30 am to Loserman
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The low bar for impeachment by the house was written back when Presidents didn't have term limits
Now that Presidents are limited to 2 terms impeachment should be harder.
But Senate still needed 2/3rds?
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:20 am to viceman
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The system worked, the accused was acquitted and became stronger because of it. That should deter partisan impeachments in the future. My point being is that 3 times in US history now it has made the President stronger. It always backfires. Let them try it again. No sense cutting Wile E.Coyote's credit line with Acme.
Agreed
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:24 am to Wire Paladin
I don’t see anyone talking about what it it would actually take to get get this pipe dream done. Look it up.
Constitutional amendments aren’t cheap.
Ain’t gonna happen.
Constitutional amendments aren’t cheap.
Ain’t gonna happen.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:33 am to MississippiLSUfan
Definitions are cheap.
Oh, he shook hands with a Russian.
High Crime...
Oh, he shook hands with a Russian.
High Crime...
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:05 am to Wire Paladin
Not opposed to that idea - but would rather see some 'due process' demanded of the process.
- Demand exculpatory information SHALL be accepted, analyzed, and documented as part of the investigation and included in an appendix to any eventual articles presented to the Senate including rationale for rejection of any such exculpatory evidence.
- Stipulate that the articles presented to the Senate for consideration SHALL BE complete and thereby sufficient to justify a verdict of guilty - with no need for any information not contained in the articles for substantiation. If any demand for additional investigation to establish evidence beyond what is presented in the articles is made, the Articles SHALL be rejected as insufficient and are thereby null and void and so noted in any record of the House.
- Require that the Articles include a declaration of "no - bias" signed by every affirmative vote for the Articles - stipulating that any demonstrated violation of this oath result in immediate expulsion from the House and disqualification for any subsequent office of honor or responsibility,
In short - stamp the IMPEACHMENT power as reserved ONLY for matters of IMMEDIATE danger to the USA that a super majority of the population would immediately recognize as an obvious threat. Otherwise - make your case for the next election,
- Demand exculpatory information SHALL be accepted, analyzed, and documented as part of the investigation and included in an appendix to any eventual articles presented to the Senate including rationale for rejection of any such exculpatory evidence.
- Stipulate that the articles presented to the Senate for consideration SHALL BE complete and thereby sufficient to justify a verdict of guilty - with no need for any information not contained in the articles for substantiation. If any demand for additional investigation to establish evidence beyond what is presented in the articles is made, the Articles SHALL be rejected as insufficient and are thereby null and void and so noted in any record of the House.
- Require that the Articles include a declaration of "no - bias" signed by every affirmative vote for the Articles - stipulating that any demonstrated violation of this oath result in immediate expulsion from the House and disqualification for any subsequent office of honor or responsibility,
In short - stamp the IMPEACHMENT power as reserved ONLY for matters of IMMEDIATE danger to the USA that a super majority of the population would immediately recognize as an obvious threat. Otherwise - make your case for the next election,
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:10 am to Wire Paladin
it should of always been this way 3/5ths
simple majority isn't a correct way to impeach a president.
simple majority isn't a correct way to impeach a president.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:16 am to viceman
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The system worked, the accused was acquitted and became stronger because of it.
Perhaps Trump did - but the process itself served its purpose - (they never ever expected the POTUS to actually be removed from office - what net even their objective)
THIS 'impeachment' was merely a campaign TACTIC undertaken to give their conspirators in the MEDIA to assist them in overtaking the SENATE
THIS 'impeachment' was nothing more than another taxpayer funded campaign TACTIC by the DEMs - same as the Mueller 'investigation' - tax-payer funded oppo-reseach effort to be used to take control of the House = and that one succeeded. ===> next stop = take over the Senate and completely neuter the Trump administration for the next 4 years.
The DEM ideology is completely anti-American - finding ways to use our constitutional protections as WEAPONs against the moral core of good American citizens.
POTUS is personally OK - but they are seeking to sabotage the foundation of his administration.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:12 am to Nono
It’s not either/or.... you’d have to have an Article V convention anyway so all sorts of amendments would be on the table.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 6:48 am to Wire Paladin
Any proposed Constitutional Amendment which lacks bipartisan support and which is unlikely to ever pass ... is pure grandstanding.
This proposal is pure grandstanding.
This proposal is pure grandstanding.
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