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Kobe chopper's flight pattern was just weird and all over the place
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:35 am
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TMZ:
4:30 PM PT -- L.A. weather was extremely foggy Sunday morning, and law enforcement sources tell us even LAPD air support was grounded because of it. Flight tracker data shows Kobe's chopper appeared to first encounter weather issues as it was above the L.A. Zoo. It circled that area at least 6 times at a very low altitude -- around 875 feet -- perhaps waiting for the fog to clear.
We know the pilot contacted the control tower at Burbank Airport around 9:30 AM PT, and the tower was aware the pilot had been circling for about 15 minutes. The pilot eventually headed north along the 118 freeway before turning to the west, and started following above the 101 freeway around Woodland Hills, CA.
At around 9:40 AM they encounter more weather -- as in seriously heavy fog -- and the chopper turned south. This was critical, because they turned toward a mountainous area. The pilot suddenly and rapidly climbed from about 1200 feet up to 2000 feet.
However, moments later -- around 9:45 AM -- they flew into a mountain at 1700 feet. Flight tracker data shows they were flying at about 161 knots.
(That is almost 200 miles a hour).
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:36 am to Street Hawk
What is vertigo?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:37 am to Street Hawk
Damn man, very avoidable tragedy
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:37 am to Street Hawk
Damn. Pilot couldn't figure out what to do.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:38 am to Street Hawk
i'm sure this is an extremely ignorant question. but if the weather was that bad why take off? why not land and wait it out? instead of circling and taking some weird flight path?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:38 am to Street Hawk
frick riding in a helicopter man.
After this tragedy I refuse to step in one unless absolutely necessary.
After this tragedy I refuse to step in one unless absolutely necessary.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:39 am to Street Hawk
Seems like 160knots was a little excessive given the weather.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:40 am to Street Hawk
This makes it so much worse
So avoidable
So avoidable
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:40 am to Street Hawk
So basically NTSB will chock this up to pilot error.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:40 am to Street Hawk
quote:
weather was extremely foggy
quote:
seriously heavy fog
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:41 am to Street Hawk
If you want to look on the bright side, slamming into the side of a mountain at that speed probably made it pretty quick way to go. Doubt they saw it coming
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:41 am to Street Hawk
This may have been answered, but I haven't been reading everything on this deal. Did he regularly use a helicopter just to travel across town?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:41 am to Street Hawk
It’s was circling because the ATC didn’t clear them to fly yet
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:43 am to Street Hawk
Just seems like he could have climbed to above the fog. Maybe that wasn't an option due to the proximity of LAX and jetliners
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:43 am to Street Hawk
Not a pilot, but they where in a helicopter. Could he not have done a controlled or slow descent? You can pretty much land a helicopter anywhere.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:45 am to Street Hawk
If you’ve never ridden in a helicopter, every minor amount of turbulence makes you feel like your stomach is going to fall out of your arse and that the helicopter is going to go down.
Helicopters fricking suck.
Helicopters fricking suck.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:45 am to Street Hawk
Listened to the ATC. Certainly appears to be pilot error. No explanation as to why he did what he did. Hope he wasn't trying to show off for his passengers or something.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:45 am to Street Hawk
quote:
Kobe's chopper appeared to first encounter weather issues as it was above the L.A. Zoo.
The first circles were an approximate 15 minute hold for an inbound flight and a go around at the airport.
The rest was not a good sign. When they dropped below radar and radio the shite hit the fan.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:46 am to Street Hawk
quote:What expertise do you have to determine that this flight pattern was “weird”?
flight pattern was just weird and all over the place
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:15 am to Street Hawk
quote:
We know the pilot contacted the control tower at Burbank Airport around 9:30 AM PT, and the tower was aware the pilot had been circling for about 15 minutes. The pilot eventually headed north along the 118 freeway before turning to the west, and started following above the 101 freeway around Woodland Hills, CA.
I listened to the communications.
He was in a holding pattern as directed by the air traffic control to allow the air space to clear so he could proceed towards his destination.
Once he was told to proceed, as he was being switched from one control tower to the next, they lost contact and crashed.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 10:19 am
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